Turkey shot down Russian Jet: reportedly by two F16's

If Turkey has iron clad proof Russia invaded their air space. than Russia is at fault. Russia has been invading international air space of other countries in the past 2 years. They played with fire too long and they now got burned.

If Russia wanted to conduct bombing raids near Turkey's border, than they should have notified Turkey before hand. Turkey warned the Russian pilot 10 times within 5 minutes to leave their airspace yet the pilot ignored the warnings. If Russia is going to be that bold and ignore the warnings, their plane should have been shot down.

Nobody's above international laws.

Its a fast moving thread and I did not see your post. Maybe consider that before acting like an ass over missing a post of yours.

originally posted by: voyger2
First Russia Violating Turkey airspace has to be proven.

Turkey released radar intercepts showing the violation.

originally posted by: voyger2
Second should Israeli airplanes be shot down everyt time they violate Syrian arispace?

Syria would have every right to do so.

originally posted by: voyger2
Third should we risk a world war because of a violation of airspace?

Russia is the one risking a start by violating turkish airspace.

originally posted by: voyger2
Edit:
Turkey violate Greek Airspace more than 1000 times annually, but that seems to be ignored ! Should turkey airplanes been shot down?
Turkish jets violated Greek airspace 1,017 times

And those 2 countries deal with it in their own way.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
How ironic it would be if Nato and Russia squared off over an argument about which anti Western Jihadist group needed destroying most.

High time we threw the Turks out of Nato, their alliegiances lie increasingly towards Islam.

I agree, turks aren't reliable allies.

a reply to: Hellas

What an utterly disgraceful demonstration of human beings

originally posted by: rigel4
Fighter jet shot down after 'violating Turkish air space'

A fighter jet which violated Turkish air space has been shot down close to the Syrian border after ignoring warnings, a Turkish military official has said.

The official said the nationality of the downed jet is unclear.

It was known from the outlet that it was Russian, and more to the point, it wasn't flying in Turkish airspace. The turks are trying to "protect" the border of Turkey that is, and has been, the main source for supplies for the Rebels and ISIS.

The Russians will play this down ... which, as so often before, is the wrong move ... they should nuke turkey, period. Turkey won't stop supporting, neither the Rebels, nor ISIS.

The Russians have to be ready to use their Nukes.

a reply to: Hellas

This is not footage of the russian pilots. They have white parachutes. The comments support that.

originally posted by: Hellas
Apparently one pilot was shot down during his landing with the parachute by those cowards

Damn. But to be expected I guess. RIP.

F#ck Turkey. What a disgrace.

News:

Confirmed:

Russian jet shot down by Turkey.

One pilot dead(maybe shot on the ground as per some videos)

Turkish tanks have lined up on the border of Syria

Unconfirmed:

A Russian rescue helicopter may have been shot down while searching for the surviving pilot.

a reply to: asen_y2k

Link fixed mate...

Not sure on authenticity this helicopter report, that is the only source i seem to able to find reporting it.

a reply to: bjarneorn

It was in turkish airspace. Still waiting on the russian side to release their info showing it wasnt in turkish airspace.

originally posted by: Hellas
Apparently one pilot was shot down during his landing with the parachute by those cowards

The first shots of world war 3 well done assholes, yea shoot a single pilot like he represents all of Russian might and aggression what a sad day for him,, his family, and the world. #ing Islamic extremists make me sick.

a reply to: TechniXcality

What even more messed up is some on this thread want NATO drawn in to back up Turkey...a country SUPPORTING Islamic extremists.....

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: bjarneorn

It was in turkish airspace. Still waiting on the russian side to release their info showing it wasnt in turkish airspace.

It wasn't when it was downed. That is very clear.

Yep. This is getting worse by the minute.
Reports now saying the following:

1. Pilot dead on ejecting, second shot in the air while parachuting down.
2. Helicopter shot down while searching for the pilots, one report says all on board dead, another says it landed.
3. Group in possession of the dead fighter pilots reportedly one backed by West.

All unconfirmed of course, but this is going to be a very difficult time for Putin and NATO either way.
His public is going to be clamoring for a retaliation, NATO will likely find it difficult to not defend Turkey if Russia does take action against it.

I hope cooler heads prevail here.
If Russia does retaliate against the Rebels or Turkey NATO should stay well out of it. Turkey has caused this through their own stupidity no matter what any extremely nervous British analyst (just seen on Sky news) says about Russia's arrogance.

Again, yes Russia is an arrogant, stupid nation for continuing to poke at Turkey, but Turkey is an enemy within and is pretty much entirely responsible for acting completely irrationally here and creating chaos where there need not have been any.

a reply to: Hellas

Ironic meme - as if we will hear from the surviving downed Pilot ...

Sorry I had to explain - you misunderstood me.

originally posted by: Logman
F#ck Turkey. What a disgrace.

The disgrace would be accepting the video as authentic instead of realizing its not related to this incident and its not the russian pilot.

What is disgraceful is people once again pretending russia can do no wrong.

originally posted by: HumanPLC
a reply to: asen_y2k

Link fixed mate...

Not sure on authenticity this helicopter report, that is the only source i seem to able to find reporting it.

I will keep on searching. This can be extremely huge if true.

a reply to: rigel4

Why are they even operating so close to the border that it could even be questioned...seems like somebody is trying to start something

a reply to: angryhulk

Still doesnt negate the fact it violated turkish airspace.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: bjarneorn

It was in turkish airspace. Still waiting on the russian side to release their info showing it wasnt in turkish airspace.

We are seeing a Turkish map of borders, But do these maps represent and include the five mile buffer zone that Turkey has imposed yet recognised by no-one....That could be why Russia are saying they never intruded on Turkish airspace ?