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White House Gave Isis 45 Minute Warning Before Bombing Oil Tankers.....Thanks, Obama!

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posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Ngatikiwi


Work for the true Syrians, hell join the Syrian army, as a I dont know a tanker driver maybe. Not having a job is no excuse/reason to join the enemy. There's a name for that.


But if your family was killed by Assad, maybe ISIS starts to look like the good guys. This is not a simple question of good guys versus bad guys, it's various flavors of bad guys struggling for control.

If you're saying they have had families killed by Assad, then fair enough. I would also join ISIS or any enemy of the state and be at risk to bombardment. But I would also accept that I am now an enemy combatant.

I personally would not drive those tankers just for the money and I would not drive if I had a gun to my head..If I was shot for that then I would say it was "the will of Allah" - if I was of Islamist faith..

Then if I was taken out of the equation (shot) then I could do no further damage either directly nor indirectly.
But by being employed either voluntarily or by coercion I am directly responsible for the deaths of others from the sale of the oil that I am transporting, just as they are.
The quicker they stop their sources of funding the quicker we can have some semblance of peace.




posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: Ngatikiwi




Its never stopped OBAMA for being concerned about the collateral from so called "Surgical Drone Strikes" before, so whats changed?


WHat has changes?

The thing that has changes is plain and simple: American interests have changed. The US always do what is in the best interests of The United States Of America. Many americans dont actually know what that phrase means. They think its about them. They think their government is doing all this for them.


EDIT:

Put in perspective:

A lot of People blame Hillarey Clinton for all the bad Things she have done over seas. But what People dont seam to understand is that she was only doing her job....A job she was orderd to do by some government official abowe her.




edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Ngatikiwi



Your taxes pay for drones that bombarde weddings and funeral processions...

You're already responsible and doing zero to stop that funding.



Stop paying taxes and go to prison if you're as brave as you're making out.

Come on it's only prison, it's not like they'll set fire to the cage your in, is it?



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:16 PM
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Haven't read the entire thread, but I wonder if we might have our own spies embedded with them, and this was the reason for the warning.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
I truly cannot be the only one who is puzzled by this; and not for reasons discussed.

Since when has the United States government and military cared about killing innocent civilians?


Since never.

Remember the July 12, 2007 Baghdad airstrike?

Reuters had unsuccessfully requested the footage of the airstrikes under the Freedom of Information Act in 2007. The footage was acquired from an undisclosed source in 2009 by the leaks website WikiLeaks, which released the footage on April 5, 2010 under the name Collateral Murder. Recorded from the gunsight Target Acquisition and Designation System of one of the attacking helicopters, the video shows the incident and the radio chatter between the aircrews and ground units involved. An anonymous U.S. military official confirmed the authenticity of the footage

Wiki link

Killing 2 journalists, and wounding 2 children, and then they tried to cover it up

This is where Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning came into the picture.

I wonder how many similar incidents have been successfully covered up ?

And ppl wonder why there is so much mistrust against the US army ?



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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While the possibility of the drivers being civilian is real, it is likely that ISIS have their guys driving their tankers. Obama has done everything he could to make us look weak in the eyes of those who wish us harm. The bit about pilots not being able to drop all their ordnance doesn't surprise me a bit. Those in power have been castrated by Obama's attempt to make us a laughing stock. Just my two cents...



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Ngatikiwi




Its never stopped OBAMA for being concerned about the collateral from so called "Surgical Drone Strikes" before, so whats changed?


WHat has changes?

The thing that has changes is plain and simple: American interests have changed. The US always do what is in the best interests of The United States Of America. Many americans dont actually know what that phrase means. They think its about them. They think their government is doing all this for them.



As an American, I have no idea what that phrase means.

The United States always does what is best in the interests of The United States of America?

Hardly, the vast majority of our policies and laws benefit those who wrote and legislate said laws and policies, i.e. special interests such as the military indsutrial complex, big-pharma, for profit prison, education, healthcare, etc etc

I would say it's a generally conceived notion that most Americans know their government doesn't have their best interests in mind. However, I don't think the vast majority of Americans truly understand the extent of this, and for the most part - truly don't care, as "it doesn't affect them," and those who do - repel relentlessly to the knees in pursuit of their new messiah, who just carries on retired, recycled, and empty rhetoric that plays on the emotional heartstrings of the ignorant masses. Make America great again! Hope and change! Move America forward!

Then asked such questions such as "What would your nickname be if you were President," and "What woman would you honor and place on this bill," as if these are actual issues and matters that are relevant and need to be addressed.

But I digress, the incessant cheering and clapping of hands when prompting such answers such as "I'll bomb the ^*#+ out of them," show the mindset of the average voter.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: aethertek

Correction. Its all hyped war propaganda fear.
Cold war 2.0 on steroids.
The terr o ristas are controlled to agitate the claimed enemy.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408


They don't care about our innocent civilians, why should we care about theirs?


Let's play 'monkey-see, monkey-do' and maybe we can be ISIL too.

Besides those people aren't 'theirs'. Many of the ISIL killers are insurgents. They are killing innocents as fast as they can themselves.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
Haven't read the entire thread, but I wonder if we might have our own spies embedded with them, and this was the reason for the warning.


I will tell you a parable:

When SF (CIA) build a camp in enemy territory. Why dont they sleep in the camp that they buildt, but observe it from a distance?

Could it be .... that they dont want to get cought of guard?
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posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

So what youre saying is the religion is the maker of these extremists without fuel from the outside whether it be the mid east or us????



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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The whole incident here boils down to aiding ...and harboring these terr o ristas. More than the current administration is involved from behind the scences.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Ngatikiwi




Its never stopped OBAMA for being concerned about the collateral from so called "Surgical Drone Strikes" before, so whats changed?


WHat has changes?

The thing that has changes is plain and simple: American interests have changed. The US always do what is in the best interests of The United States Of America. Many americans dont actually know what that phrase means. They think its about them. They think their government is doing all this for them.


I agree, the question was rhetorical..and for "them'.

Or is it about PR or Obama's peace medal that he glanced at at breakfast, and the guilt he felt for a split second thinking he might have to do something about earning it..



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Dystopian7
The whole incident here boils down to aiding ...and harboring these terr o ristas.


Dude that sounds tasty. Is pineapple in a terr o rista? I'm alergic to pineapple.


More than the current administration is involved from behind the scences.


When it come to the middle east you gotta go back about 7 administrations to see where the screwing there started.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Ngatikiwi



Your taxes pay for drones that bombarde weddings and funeral processions...

You're already responsible and doing zero to stop that funding.



Stop paying taxes and go to prison if you're as brave as you're making out.

Come on it's only prison, it's not like they'll set fire to the cage your in, is it?


Im not American



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: paxnatus

infowars?

Nope. Lots of nope.



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Ngatikiwi

Your taxes pay for drones that bombarde weddings and funeral processions...

You're already responsible and doing zero to stop that funding.



Stop paying taxes and go to prison if you're as brave as you're making out.

Come on it's only prison, it's not like they'll set fire to the cage your in, is it?


This problem needs more than civil disobedience to stop it.

The leadership of America in particular has become as disconnected from the people as the old Soviet Regime was. We all know what eventually happened to the Soviet Union - it went bankrupt and collapsed because it had failed to keep the interests of the people at front of mind instead of fighting offshore wars.

How many trillions of debt has the US rung up now? How many wars to 'spread democracy' has it started?



As we say in NZ, 'yeah right' to the above song premise.

Oh and yeah, while we are at it, let's not forget the biggest crime against humanity never talked about; Libya


After NATO’s intervention in 2011, Libya is now a failed state and its economy is in shambles. As the government’s control slips through their fingers and into to the militia fighters’ hands, oil production has all but stopped.


Libya; From Africa's richest nation under Gadaffi to failed state after NATO intervention

Gotta love 'democracy' right?
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posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

Exactly.

They've been murdering innocent people and covering it up for decades, even branding those who expose their actions (I didn't say crimes, I said actions) as criminals, traitors, etc etc, while not a single word is voiced towards not only criminals and traitors, but killers and sociopaths.

Now all of a sudden, we are to believe that we are withholding acting upon IS due to "possible civilian casualties?"

Give me a break - we dropped a nuke within 15 miles of a schoolhouse, yeah - Murka! Murka! Ooh-rah!

And people truly cannot compute as to why so many millions, hundreds of millions, detest and despise the actions of the United States government and military.

Yet again, we suddenly have stopped doing the one thing we are exceptionally well at doing - pumping hundreds of millions and billions into the military industrial complex to kill strangers in distant lands, because of possible civilian casualties?

And I know many will simply blame "Obama," because clearly there are is no structured and layered power system in between different branches in gocernment - it's just "Obama," his fault - and his alone, at least in the minds of many.

Obummer is simply a tool for those who are already in power to carry out their will, and a public figure for you to decry and denounce from being everything to the Anti-Christ to the fabled Oby-Wan, a secret Muslim super agent, born out of time, on a mission to save the Muslim world, and once he's gone - the same policies continue, and someone else is blamed.

It was W.! He did it!
It was Clinton! Damn libtards!
Bush! What a joke!
Obama! Socialist Muslim!
Next dude! Something about something!

It's this never-ending pattern of madness, that drives me absolutely insane. The same people who wept at the knees for Obama's godliness, are the equivalent of those at the knees of Trump. We just keep this spinning rotation rotating, because within four to eight years, let's be real here - most Americans will have all but forgotten about everything that has happened politically over the last four years. But oh man, the last few super-bowls and World Series, wow - let me tell you all about of that!



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: alienjuggalo

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: paxnatus
I watched a video of the strikes on these trucks.
I expected to see a moving convoy of oil trucks struck by aircraft. The trucks were all parked side by side, maybe 20 or so in each line. Why would so many trucks be parked in such a fashion?

I smell something stinky here.


I saw a story somewhere that those were actually russian air strikes that the US said were ours..

thefreethoughtproject.com...


Yep

youtu.be...



posted on Nov, 23 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: Ngatikiwi

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Ngatikiwi




Its never stopped OBAMA for being concerned about the collateral from so called "Surgical Drone Strikes" before, so whats changed?


WHat has changes?

The thing that has changes is plain and simple: American interests have changed. The US always do what is in the best interests of The United States Of America. Many americans dont actually know what that phrase means. They think its about them. They think their government is doing all this for them.


I agree, the question was rhetorical..and for "them'.

Or is it about PR or Obama's peace medal that he glanced at at breakfast, and the guilt he felt for a split second thinking he might have to do something about earning it..


Obama is true to what ever path the US have set.... Obama dont care about Public opinion at all...he dosent have to.

Reason: He is not going to be elected again.

What is important is that Obama does what is needed of him until he is replaced by someone who will take over where he left of.



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