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Carson: 'We should have a database on everybody'

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posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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Well, this is pretty much self explanatory. In response to the controversy over Donald Trump saying we should keep a database of Muslims, Carson says we should have a database to keep track of all citizens. Anyone who's concerned about Americans' rights and government overreach should not be supporting this man. So much for small government.

www.cnn.com...




posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: CB328

We already do, call the NSA! Or, you can write to the FBI and request to see your "file". If you have one, they'll make a copy for you.

...although I always thought that if I didn't have a file, asking for it might give them cause to create one!



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: CB328

This ship has already sailed. There is a file on all of us.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:40 PM
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I am well aware of that, but this is about Carson's support of it.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: CB328

We already do, call the NSA! Or, you can write to the FBI and request to see your "file". If you have one, they'll make a copy for you.

...although I always thought that if I didn't have a file, asking for it might give them cause to create one!


My thoughts exactly, don't they already spy on all of us? That said, I will never support any would-be politician that wants to continue down that road.

I would like to see if I have a file, hmmmm..



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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NSA, IRS, CIA, FBI,GOOGLE...



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:44 PM
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I thought Republicans wanted SMALLER goverment?



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: CB328

This ship has already sailed. There is a file on all of us.


Na doesnt work like that.

All our data is stored. But its just stored as untapped crude data. Its only pulled if you become a suspect for something.

Not saying thats right or moral. But just saying the NSA doesnt care about if you visit ATS or if your into Japanese fart porn or like cat memes ect

In some ways it simply because they dont have the man power to look at every single peice of data unless it correpsonds to someting or someone important.
edit on 22-11-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: Swills

LOL, If you request yours...I'll request mine.

I'm not a very controversial person though so, I doubt they have anything of interest on me.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

The same people who want more "government security" often fail to realize it will include them.

Everyone (dems and repubs) clamored for the Patriot Act after 9/11 -- and look at what that did? Expanded survellience powers, eavesdropping, wiretapping, secret kangaroo courts.

What supporters of more government security fail to realize is that "domestic terrorist" is a real thing, and its often applied to hardcore conservatives -- the same people pushing for these "lists".

So, these hardcore conservatives are basically giving the thumbs up to also be put onto a list.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well in light of the events in Paris and the State emergency in Belgium, it is no wonder people feel a little less safe no matter where they live.

I think to broad-brush it as a 'conservative' desire to want to have our governments protect us more is not really the fact. I'm not conservative by definition, but anything that the government can do to help protect its citizens is fine with me.

People living in free social environments just want to be safe. If the world was safe, then we wouldn't need extra protection. But in times of war, and that is what we are in, war has been declared against our societies, we need to understand more protection is needed. Unfortunate, but needed. I have nothing to hide and therefore support stronger security measures until the fight is over. But that is just me and how I feel.
edit on 22-11-2015 by Area56 because: added a word



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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something is truly wrong with Carson....his elevator doesn't all the way to the top floor, so to speak.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: CB328

First I hate posts like this where you have to go find your own source to find the entire interview. Instead of just a bias article with out of context snippets to support the authors political stance.

Anyways, Its called a trap question. There is no way to answer it without being criticized. "Should there be a database created on Muslims. He says no, he looks soft and would have the weakest stance of any political candidate and be criticized by his own party..., he says yes, he looks Islamophobic...So he made a safe answer saying everyone should be treated equally as to not make it looks like he would target any specific group. Based on what Carson actually believes and his philosophy, he has made it clear he prefers a smaller less intrusive and more transparent government. But basing an entire candidates political view off a small quote from one interview and disregarding the other 500 speeches and letters written by that same person is pretty uninformed. Also we already have databases so at least it wouldn't be the worst thing to have a president who is at lease open and honest about it rather than who we currently have who does it behind your back and likely uses it to their own political advantage... IRS scandal...



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: CB328

I could hope Ben meant "We should continue to retain a database
on everybody" because otherwise the man needs to get up to speed.
With a lot fo the left having more than enough cannon fodder to pitch
at him already, this isn't helping his awareness image much.
On the other hand Sarah Palin was the VP candidate in the last cycle for
the GOP-- and more than just another pretty face.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: thehoopsmith512

So he was pandering.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom

Everyone (dems and repubs) clamored for the Patriot Act after 9/11 -- and look at what that did? Expanded survellience powers, eavesdropping, wiretapping, secret kangaroo courts.


Everyone except for Bernie Sanders, that is.

He's voted against it every time it's come up, since day 1.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric
a reply to: Swills

LOL, If you request yours...I'll request mine.

I'm not a very controversial person though so, I doubt they have anything of interest on me.




I definitely want to but like most things in my life, just because I want to do it doesn't mean I'll get around to doing it, because procrastination.

First I gotta find the site to apply for my file and then I'm sure I'll have to fill out much information. Ugh, I'm bored already



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
I thought Republicans wanted SMALLER goverment?



No, they want to expand the police state and MIC, they just want to shrink the spending on social programs.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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I think this guy is a complete kook. No way he wins the nom...Something will come to light here pretty soon about him, not in a good way either.



posted on Nov, 22 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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simply because they dont have the man power to look at every single peice of data


Well now they have that giant server farm in Utah where they can store everything every person in America does their entire life. They probably have computers analyzing all of us every day.



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