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originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: djz3ro
She identified with the Islamic faith fella.
Not a very good example of a Muslim but she identified with the faith, not Christianity or Sikhism lol.
Try again.
She aided Daesh yes but if she was converted to their bastardization of Islam it was a very quick conversion, it wasn't all that long ago she was a good time girl
originally posted by: grainofsand
Which 'tough guys' do you refer to? Do you have intimate knowledge of the survival/life experiences of other ATS members perhaps?
So why keep a spare burkha in our preps then? Why learn key Islamic phrases?
I thought y'all are saying that Daesh is not an Islamic problem?
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Exitt
It says nowhere in the Quran we can lie steal and cheat to save our lives...
It says we can conceal our faith.
Like someone would conceal pregnancy for the first couple of months...
Or conceal that they've been to the doctors...
Not to lie when asked outright.
Just an FYI.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, though they should not feel that way..
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Terrorists lie. Suicide bombers lie. Murdering cowards lie.
Since they profess Muslim faith, it is assumed that Muslims lie.