Virginia town hall meeting descends into chaos as anti-Muslim bigots scream insults

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting

originally posted by: Annee
OK.

Who beliefs this man is something other then a Christian?

Annee, can we get through one thread, darlin' ?

It's Virginia. As close to the Bible Belt as you can get without being in it.

Do you think this guy is something other then Christian?

I live in Virginia. Not all that far from where this is as a matter of fact and I can tell you that there are folks who live here who do not identify as Christian.

It happens. There are people in the bible belt who are not religious.

ETA - That upon further reading I am also good with Oaf....

a reply to: Domo1

Big bastards with broken kneecaps are no threat to a canny pugilist. Just food for thought.

Now, as for the spew falling out of this mans mouth? He is clearly being washed away by a wave of ignorance and folly, as were the Nazis before him, and so on and so forth. He is one to whom the lessons of history are concepts beyond his ability to assimilate, or understand correctly in the least.

However, it is important to realise that although this pig ignorant oaf is surely worthy of a slap upside the head, it is the specific detail of his blanket enmity of all Muslims everywhere, which marks him out as being a just target for a slapping. It is reasonable to oppose terror, it is reasonable to oppose terrorists, but it is unreasonable to make an enemy of anyone who shares a certain religious belief, just because SOME people within that religion happen to have all the moral fortitude of Freddy Kruger.

Being anti-Muslim is not an acceptable position to take. It is no less unreasonable than being anti-Jew, or anti-Christian, or anti-Buddhist or what have you. It is the same toxic nonsense as being a white supremacist, and ironically is precisely as wrong as being a terroristic bastard, such as those that this man claims to be dead against the existence of. He has become his own enemy, and his hatred will be used as a tool by those he claims enmity of. He is doing the work of his enemies for them, by applying hatred to all Muslims, rather than to those who are deserving of it.

I never want to hear a French surrender joke from the Americans EVER again......

The USA has not even been the one attacked and your giving in to hysterical fear.....

The French meanwhile are still taking in refugees.

The French it seems have far more guts than the Americans these days.

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: Dreamwatcher

I wonder how long will it take before the situation will morph into this:

a reply to: ~Lucidity

It is quite Ironic that the Satanists actually followed the teaching of Christ which is helping out their fellow man.

Already has.

You have Trump saying he will database all muslims.....

a reply to: crazyewok

they probably already have a few gov't databases that already have all the data they need to not only sort out who's what religion but also, what you spent that five dollars yesterday for.

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www.motherjones.com...

Gee, wonder just what she meant by him never accepted that they were doing it for their benefit?? Could it be that they presented this idea of incarcerating a whole group of people as being for their own protection and thus beneficial to them?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting

originally posted by: Annee
OK.

Who beliefs this man is something other then a Christian?

Annee, can we get through one thread, darlin' ?

It's Virginia. As close to the Bible Belt as you can get without being in it.

Do you think this guy is something other then Christian?

Do you realize that Virginia is an extremely diverse state? This town is considered to be a part of Northern VA....entirely different set of people than those in the southern part of the state.

I would know, I live in Northern VA myself.

We are a stones throw away from DC, Baltimore and many other largely populated and diverse towns.

I use to live in the Bible belt too (Kentucky).....Not everyone that lives in there are Christians either, I can promise you that.

originally posted by: crazyewok
I never want to hear a French surrender joke from the Americans EVER again......

The USA has not even been the one attacked and your giving in to hysterical fear.....

The French meanwhile are still taking in refugees.

The French it seems have far more guts than the Americans these days.

I know this thread is young - but thought this was worth repeating

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

oh, guess I don't live that close to it after all, I'm in the southwest section of the state, ya know that totally different set of people.... we have all kinds of people down here....although I hear that if you wander into some of the small communities in the mountains you might find some rather weird groups. at least weird to me.

Fair enough. lol

I would edit to make my point better but, it's past the deadline.

I suppose I should have just said that the more southern parts of the state (closer to the bible belt) are less populated and therefore more likely to be less diverse as the northern part of the state.

My apologies for lumping you into a "different set of people"

originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting

originally posted by: Annee
OK.

Who beliefs this man is something other then a Christian?

Annee, can we get through one thread, darlin' ?

It's Virginia. As close to the Bible Belt as you can get without being in it.

Do you think this guy is something other then Christian?

Do you realize that Virginia is an extremely diverse state? This town is considered to be a part of Northern VA....entirely different set of people than those in the southern part of the state.

I would know, I live in Northern VA myself.

We are a stones throw away from DC, Baltimore and many other largely populated and diverse towns.

I use to live in the Bible belt too (Kentucky).....Not everyone that lives in there are Christians either, I can promise you that.

A moment of weakness. I live near "Hollyweird" -- I know about stereotyping.

I am not anti-religious, I am pro secular government. I was raised Christian. I speak only about the religion I know. You won't see me speaking negatively about any other religious belief, as I am ignorant of them.

This man is an Oaf.

Why was he not removed from the meeting? Instead of forcing the meeting to close.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Implying that THIS man's hating of all Muslims is the same as, or "mirrors" everyone on ATS who hates ISIS...is as bigoted as anything coming out of that man's mouth.

Thank you. I am getting sick of being aligned with people like this, too, just because I don't put it past ISIS to exploit the refugee crisis. It has nothing to do with hating muslims, Syrians, refugees -- it has everything to do with witnessing failure after failure in the federal government's War on Terror.

I think the Right Wing propagandists should take a bow on this one. This man, and those that think like him, are a product of hateful, ignorant Right Wing propaganda.

I'd like to place the blame elsewhere, but no one else in the US is spreading this sort of message.

a reply to: introvert

Yep this outburst shows their propaganda is working. They should be proud.

Wow ats is full of more hate than this man. I seen this video last nite on the news and it made me outraged because of the ignorant remarks but then I come here and read what all the peeps have to say about it and I find what is just as terrible as this mans words right here on ats as so many try to twist the situation into something it is not. The hate shown on ats for Christians far outweighs the hate this guy shown.



it is like taking a dump on a golden ticket.

originally posted by: introvert
I think the Right Wing propagandists should take a bow on this one. This man, and those that think like him, are a product of hateful, ignorant Right Wing propaganda.

I'd like to place the blame elsewhere, but no one else in the US is spreading this sort of message.

There are times when I wonder if people like this are plants. Either way, I resent his gross generalizations because it silences the voices of people, like myself, who would like to talk about compromise.

As it stands, I am fine with bringing in the refugees. But, at the same time, I want to see a full accounting of every dollar spent on the War on Terror and a thorough investigation into anyone profiting from it -- and I insist that it all be fully transparent. I don't think that's unreasonable but, of course, that would require a close look at many people in the federal government.

Guys like this loudmouth make it very easy to ignore compromised solutions, like mine. I have to wonder if that isn't by design.


ETA: I feel I should make it clear that I am neither a republican nor a Christian.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Implying that THIS man's hating of all Muslims is the same as, or "mirrors" everyone on ATS who hates ISIS...is as bigoted as anything coming out of that man's mouth.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Implying that THIS man's hating of all Muslims is the same as, or "mirrors" everyone on ATS who hates ISIS...is as bigoted as anything coming out of that man's mouth.

Thank you. I am getting sick of being aligned with people like this, too, just because I don't put it past ISIS to exploit the refugee crisis. It has nothing to do with hating muslims, Syrians, refugees -- it has everything to do with witnessing failure after failure in the federal government's War on Terror.

From my OP:
"It appears much of the hatred and vitriol on ATS in reaction to recent the terrorist attacks mirrors real life. "

No where in that sentence do I say "mirrors everyone on ATS who hates ISIS". Why are you adding extra words or meanings that are not there? That is a technique propagandists use.

The statement means exactly as it is worded. It is about the upswing in hatred and vitriol being expressed, not about any individual ATS poster or thought out logical positions. ATS can be a reflection the world, after all it is made up of people from all walks of life.In fact, the knee jerk reaction to the statement only reinforces it.

The post is about how we see this type of behavior over and over again through history. How it starts small like this and becomes the rally cry for more war. Dehumanizing and stopping communication using a broad brush stroke are some of the first steps to all out war.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
Wow ats is full of more hate than this man. I seen this video last nite on the news and it made me outraged because of the ignorant remarks but then I come here and read what all the peeps have to say about it and I find what is just as terrible as this mans words right here on ats as so many try to twist the situation into something it is not. The hate shown on ats for Christians far outweighs the hate this guy shown.

it is like taking a dump on a golden ticket.

Oh, quit being a drama queen. There are a few members that are anti-Christian, but the vast majority of the rest of us just want Christians to quit shoving their "holier than thou" nonsense down our throats.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Guys like this loudmouth make it very easy to ignore compromised solutions, like mine. I have to wonder if that isn't by design.

He is not a plant. This is how he really feels and there are many more, dare I say millions, that believe and talk the same way he does. I don't know why we don't just admit it and address it.

I've been saying for many years that Right Wing propaganda is very dangerous. It poses a greater risk to our security than terrorism because it is only a matter of time before the rhetoric and propaganda causes people to lash-out against those they have been brainwashed to hate....gays, Muslims, socialists?

Take a bow, Right Wing nuts. Be proud that you have something that even the extreme Left would not stoop so low as to do.

originally posted by: crazyewok
I never want to hear a French surrender joke from the Americans EVER again......

The USA has not even been the one attacked and your giving in to hysterical fear.....

The French meanwhile are still taking in refugees.

The French it seems have far more guts than the Americans these days.

I told a frenchman a joke one day. i said guess the punchline. he said I give up.

Theres a fine line between caution and fear though. All they want to do is vet them like any immigrant(takes about 5 ys lol)

And really the french government in WW2 were cowards. the people itself though? not so much. See when we make a french surrender joke its just about the leadership actually. They have always been stupid in leadership. The ones causing the problem in france though are ones who have been there years. they might need deportation and let the syrians take over the places they had instead.

originally posted by: Dreamwatcher

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Implying that THIS man's hating of all Muslims is the same as, or "mirrors" everyone on ATS who hates ISIS...is as bigoted as anything coming out of that man's mouth.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Implying that THIS man's hating of all Muslims is the same as, or "mirrors" everyone on ATS who hates ISIS...is as bigoted as anything coming out of that man's mouth.

Thank you. I am getting sick of being aligned with people like this, too, just because I don't put it past ISIS to exploit the refugee crisis. It has nothing to do with hating muslims, Syrians, refugees -- it has everything to do with witnessing failure after failure in the federal government's War on Terror.

From my OP:
"It appears much of the hatred and vitriol on ATS in reaction to recent the terrorist attacks mirrors real life. "

No where in that sentence do I say "mirrors everyone on ATS who hates ISIS". Why are you adding extra words or meanings that are not there? That is a technique propagandists use.

The statement means exactly as it is worded. It is about the upswing in hatred and vitriol being expressed, not about any individual ATS poster or thought out logical positions. ATS can be a reflection the world, after all it is made up of people from all walks of life.In fact, the knee jerk reaction to the statement only reinforces it.

The post is about how we see this type of behavior over and over again through history. How it starts small like this and becomes the rally cry for more war. Dehumanizing and stopping communication using a broad brush stroke are some of the first steps to all out war.

Thanks for clearing that up!

originally posted by: introvert
I think the Right Wing propagandists should take a bow on this one. This man, and those that think like him, are a product of hateful, ignorant Right Wing propaganda.

I'd like to place the blame elsewhere, but no one else in the US is spreading this sort of message.

Theres hateful propaganda on BOTH sides truthfully. be fair or be accussed of bias right?