a reply to: muse7
That graph shows that the war in Iraq made the country unstable, this is not a surprise.
It also shows that Pakistan became more extreme and unstable, but that's predominantly through their local inability or unwillingness to deal with the
extremists in their own country.
This excuse that our actions are resulting in this are ignorant. I understand the motivation to do that, I really do, but it's still ignorant.
They attacked LONG before Iraq and Afghanistan. Lets not try to rewrite history here and claim that everything was rosy before the coalition went in
there for regime change.
This is the same breed of extremism we have always seen, just under different banners. It's re-branding, nothing more. Before IS it was Al-Shabab and
various other factions, before them it was AQ, before that it was another cult. These are all groups supported by the same sick and twisted radicals
likely hiding in positions of power in other countries, nations like Pakistan for instance.
Ultimately, there is no excuse for someone murdering innocent people in any country, none. I don't give a damn what a nation does or their army, there
is no excuse for individuals to inflict such disgusting atrocities on other innocent people. This ideology has nothing at all to do with "revenge",
it's about a radical and sickening ideology using the cover of religion and revenge as an excuse to be psychopaths.
A perfect display of this can be seen in these "highly devout Muslims" who drink, take drugs, rape women etc... nothing to do with religion,
everything to do with being in a cult.
What do we need to do?
I was against the wars, but I am all for us going into Syria and pounding these sick individuals into the dirt.
Sometimes you just need to use the weapons you have to defend your country from attack. There are far too many incredibly naive people out there who
think there is some rational, peaceful resolution to this, but as many here know (from experience with simply trying to discuss rationally with the
completely irrational) there is no dealing with these people. They are incapable of rational thought, there is nothing we can do to stop them from
murdering people in the most disgusting ways because they are MENTALLY DERANGED.
People really don't seem to understand that these individuals are barely Human.
If you imagine the most sickening serial killer currently on death row in the US, then multiply that by a factor of 1000.
We should not be seeking to explain their actions, excuse their behavior, justify their twisted mentalities... these people are disgusting sub-Human
pieces of excrement which need to be neutralized in the same way we would neutralize a rabid dog attacking people in the street.
Here is what I think we need to do...
1. Close our borders to anyone we cannot identify or anyone of dubious identity, over the age of 18.
2. Stop monitoring extremists and start rounding them up. We're wasting time and resources watching these people for more information when we should
be dragging them into a cell, just as France is doing right now.
3. Bomb IS into the last century, take out every location within Syria, Libya, Iraq...
4. Find all sources of funding and consider a plan of action against them appropriate to their actions.
5. Send a specialized team into Syria, Iraq and Libya to execute every Taliban member, every IS operative, every radical we can find.
6. Isolate any country not conforming to a specific set of Human rights laws, no business, no banking, no arms deals, no association with them until
they change policy.
Primarily, we need to isolate these countries from ours, while supporting genuine refugees. Lets not be ignoramuses here, a 10 year old kid is not a
suicide bomber and his mother is taking him to safety to escape these same psychopaths we are fighting. They should be supported.
Nothing we do, or don't do, is going to change the behavior of these psychopathic individuals. They will kill in the most disgusting ways where they
can, not because of "revenge", not because of religion, just because they are sub-Human, deranged creatures.
You cannot apply rational explanations to people who take pleasure in slaughtering others.
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