Syrians refugees to America: Just only the Christian Assyrians, the rest can go to Guantanamo.

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

There is right now a response from about 26 governors of the States of the country that are rejecting any plan to accommodate Syrian refugees after it was known that the authors of the terrible unmerciful and barbarian attack in Paris were precisely admitted in France with status of refugees.

www.cnn.com...

I think America has learnt its own lesson of how risky is to accept people that by sure we don't know what real intentions and thoughts have in their heads. We have seen how two Chenyans, a group that several times was denounced by Russia as one of the most fierce militant terrorist nations in the world, were who performed the also terribly shocking bombing of the Boston Marathon.

The Muslim American population must be protected of any xenophobic fanaticism, but also must be forced to maintain a clear position against terrorism: Islamic schools, mosques, colleges and other public places must be carefully inspected and even constantly monitored by the FBI and CIA to prevent the existence of any sympathetic cells of jihadists. They most denounce clearly ISIS as an evil heretic movement and condemn all their actions.

www.aljazeera.com...

I don't know what do you feel about this same topic, but I think clearly we have arrived to the moment in which it represents a huge risk that we can't assume in this country to open the doors to people only because they are classified by the federal administration as allies, in the same way that Tsarnaev brothers were in the past, or even Osama bin laden who was in 1980s considered a hero of the Afghan resistance against the Soviet union.

I would only suggest to consider for admission in the country perhaps the Christian Assyrians that are the ones really need the political asylum in America, but after an extremely carefully screening of the personal and family background of each applicant at least until the third generation behind him. Anybody that does not have a clearly Christian name must be considered a potential terrorist.

The rest of the refugees, the Muslim ones, after the rigorous screening asked by President Obama to perform on them two days ago, I am sure will be grateful to have the opportunity to exit the terrible war of Syria toward the US Army and Navy base of Guatanamo.

I am sure many people agree with me that Fidel and Raul Castro, now that Obama has declared them our friends, can do for us a great favor with the great fame of courage they have earned after more than 50 years of resistance to America. The Castro brothers have the needed military skills and reputation to deal with any of those people, just in case they find the way to overthrown the military authorities of the base, if it happen to be actually bandits acting under the camouflage of refugees. .

The thread is open for whoever have opinions on this meditation about the asylum for Syrian refugees that the President is asking to grant, or perhaps other propositions to share on how to fix this issue in a way don't compromise the national security. This discussion is open to the free discussion of the topic regulated by the rules of decorum and mutual respect in the posting.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

ONE word...

Taqiyya

originally posted by: Advantage
ONE word...

Taqiyya

"In Shi'a Islam, taqiya (تقیة taqiyyah/taqīyah) is a form of religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts, especially while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution."

"Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief." "


"Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them."

from Lying (Taqiyya and Kitman)

a reply to: Advantage
Expanding on your post it would be remiss not to include additional data on it.

The Doctrine of Taqiyya

According to Shari'a—the body of legal rulings that defines how a Muslim should behave in all circumstances—deception is not only permitted in certain situations but may be deemed obligatory in others. Contrary to early Christian tradition, for instance, Muslims who were forced to choose between recanting Islam or suffering persecution were permitted to lie and feign apostasy. Other jurists have decreed that Muslims are obligated to lie in order to preserve themselves,[2] based on Qur'anic verses forbidding Muslims from being instrumental in their own deaths.[3]

This is the classic definition of the doctrine of taqiyya. Based on an Arabic word denoting fear, taqiyya has long been understood, especially by Western academics, as something to resort to in times of religious persecution and, for the most part, used in this sense by minority Shi'i groups living among hostile Sunni majorities.[4] Taqiyya allowed the Shi'a to dissemble their religious affiliation in front of the Sunnis on a regular basis, not merely by keeping clandestine about their own beliefs but by actively praying and behaving as if they were Sunnis.

How Taqiyya alters Islam's Rules of War

SOrry, I forgot. Google was broke and no one could look it up.

Youre right though. Its been spoken about so much on here over the yrs and I just think everyone knows! LOL! Thats what I get for assuming.

a reply to: The angel of light

lol

This thread is full of irony.

a reply to: The angel of light

To break this down, you want to reward Christians with asylum and then send the Muslims to a detention camp.

That is not the Christian way nor the American way. We learned this lesson with our citizens of Japanese descent during WW2.

a reply to: Swills

Well Dear Swills,

This thread perhaps sounds ironic, but today there is consensus among all the analysts that agree the tragedy of Paris had pretty obviously two elements that are mutually complementary:

a terrible smart and well premeditated terrorist strategy to lie, in filter and attack, and its counterpart: an element of visible incompetence of the French public administration that didn't use the minimal required caution to see that refugees can be also spies or double agents and so apply a better tied screening.

It might be unfair to blame only the French for this terrible mistake, we here in America has seen the same lack of efficiency in the immigration system costing terribly lives of many innocent people:

In October of 1959 the Eisenhower administration readmitted to the country Lee H. Oswald, a man that when he was just 17, he had resided at 22 different locations and attended 12 different schools. He renounced to the American citizenship in Moscow about a year before, then he married the daughter of a KGB agent, few months after he was interned in a Psychiatric Russian hospital for a supposed attempt of suicide. The rest of his life it is very well known and what it represented for the nation.

Another classic example: It has been extensively reported by the media along years that Osama Bin Laden was even trained by CIA, in between 1979 and 1980, to fight against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan, they thought they were using him well, but the sad reality is that it was in the other way around.

This mistake was nor the only one committed by the Carter Administration, neither the worst: To retire the political support to Sha Muhammed Reza-Pahlevi in the middle of fundamentalist Persian Islamic revolution proved to be in the long run fatal to cut the political neck of a President that was not reelected thanks to the crisis of hostages in Iran caused by a regime that arrived to power in such turmoil.

The George W Bush administration admitted Tsarnaev brothers in 2002, after the attack of the world trade center in NYC, allowing them to enter to America also as refugees , against all the reports of the Russian intelligentsia that warned the CIA , The FBI and homeland and security about the class of criminals America was admitting in its territory.

Finally many years after those painful experiences, another democratic administration, this time Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama enthusiastically embraced the revolutions in North Africa few years ago, even going against reliable and loyal allies of decades, like President Hosni Mubbarak of Egypt, just to discover that it was not democracy what it was behind them, but ISIS.

It is intelligent to learn from History and to don't repeat the same mistakes systematically, the contrary is something that I prefer even to don't mention by its name.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: Abysha

Everything depends on the lens you use to check it:

The Muslim Syrians that are not in favor of Isis but are against Assad need not really to come to America, what they need is to win the war they are involved in.

If they can't fight, because they are children or women or elders, they can stay in Guatanamo not in captivity, just under surveillance.

Cuba with its tropical weather all the year can be even a paradise for people that here in America by sure will need a lot of more financial help from public funding to survive the winter.

Now, the case with the Christian Assyrians is entirely different, since they are under genocide due to religious intolerance, they are the only ones that really deserve possibly asylum.

It is nor American to discriminate in such a way, nor Christian? well in their original land it was indeed a huge difference to be a Christian or a muslim and not precisely for good.

By the way, why you don't ask a Mexican peasant that is living in the middle of a terrible war of government against narco maffias that rule his country since the US subsides to compete in Nafta left millions without jobs or businesses, of the way Homeland and security admits a Cuban crossing Mexico, without any screening at all, but kick off him of any possibility to come here for a job no body here even wants to work in?

Have you ever compared the number of green cards through Lotto that are assigned every year for Christian Countries with the ones for non Christian countries? if you do so possibly you are going to see why the values in America have changed so dramatically in the last 4 decades.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Not gonna read that wall of text, especially based off of your ridiculous OP but I'm glad only 3 people thought this was a good idea.

a reply to: Swills

Well, Yes your threads about Aqaeda show clearly that your style is more look like chatting with your pals, mine is entirely different.

I am not against to chat here, but what I write is not for people into passing the time in the forum while drinking coffee with donuts and texting like in the cell to a friend.

This is for members that are more interesting in to find an alternative analysis of topics that are being reported by the media but with primarily only one point of view.

What it seems to be funny here, in your very personal opinion , from my perspective show a very serious reality, in few words that screening people is someting that require a lot of time to be effective, otherwise is highly risky for the security of all of us, and we don't have such time to solve the situation of those refugees.

Anyway I am glad you found fun for a while here and finally told what you wanted to say since the beginning.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

Christians with all your forgiveness, love thy enemy and not fearing for tomorrow. Were they all typos in the bible. You've been promised ever lasting joy in the eternity of heaven, wtf are you worried about?

a reply to: woodwardjnr

In Christian values you love the sinner but reject absolutely his sins, you know very well what is the limit of how far you can go withouth putting yourself in risk, as well as what you can't accept from them.

What the President is asking today to all of us to do is extremely risky, he is not acting in the most responsible way, just only in a political one, he does not understand that we are tired of political actions, we need genuine leadership that protect us and our allies.

Why President Obama does not give assylum to those disparate syrians in the white house or in Camp David? because he know by sure that his security and his own family will not accept such a risk there isn't it? well that is the risk he is willing we deal with.

abcnews.go.com...

God is not calling us to embrace them when they are planing to kill us in such action, what he is asking us to do is to show them how wrong they are with our example of life, like the respect we have here for the 10 million muslims that already exist in America, to don't return their evil actions with more evil actions aganist innocent people.

Right now almost two millions of Christian Assyrians are being systematically exterminated by the forces of ISIS, they don't care about respect of others faith or dignity, they have brought to the world a kind of barbarism that it didnt exist since the times of Atila.

They are putting Christians not in military bases but in walls to be shoted without mercy, or beheading even children, so why we must risk our lives bringing Muslims to dense populated areas of America? that would not be any virtue from our side but a silly and irresponsible decision.

Religious testing of those refugees is essential to warranty the security of all of us, we need to be sure of what are the dogmas and ideals that people believe in, as well as any possibly brain washing they could have.

Now if the idea of Guatanamo sounds extreme, someting I really don't think so, there are many islands in the Pacific that are US territories where those refugees can be in acceptable conditions without risking American lives if we bring them to the mainland where we have huge cities to take care of.

What happened the Friday in France was an Act of War, we can't respond to it with a lesson of etiquette and good social manners, sorry.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

We have finished practically the day dealing with the discussion of how many Syrian refugees and under which condiitons must be received , in order to preserve the standards of the National security interests, and only 9 states have showed interest in to take the risk.

www.newsweek.com...

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness