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originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
Ha ha ha, this question...
America takes much responsibly for destabilizing the Middle East.
Camps in Syria? Talk about sitting ducks.
Camps...
The Middle East has never been stable, it has in fact been the cradle of chaos for 1000's of years.
One can only add fuel to an already burning fire.
As long as religions, leaders, banks, large businesses, and politics are around we will see chaos.
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
Ha ha ha, this question...
America takes much responsibly for destabilizing the Middle East.
Camps in Syria? Talk about sitting ducks.
Camps...
The Middle East has never been stable, it has in fact been the cradle of chaos for 1000's of years.
One can only add fuel to an already burning fire.
As long as religions, leaders, banks, large businesses, and politics are around we will see chaos.
lol, all America ever did to the middle east was to build them an oil infrastructure that turned them from nomadic goat herders into the richest area in the world. Gave them a huge opportunity to become civilized and part of the 1st world.
Did they bother to take the offer ? Nope. America did nothing but give them a great opportunity, to no avail.
When oil stops being a commodity, they will go back to looking and living exactly as they did in the 5th century.
Not our fault that dozens of trillions developed nothing, and went to golden toilets, jumbo jets, and caviar-booze-blow instead.
originally posted by: skunkape23
I welcome the women and children to Texas. The men need to stay home and take care of business.
originally posted by: sapien82
so much for the land of the free , liberty and justice for all !
isnt that what the statue of liberty was for so that new arrivals would see it and feel happy
because they had escaped oppression , now they cant even get in
originally posted by: okachobi
As others have said in this thread, states don't issue immigration documents. For all a state knows, anyone settling in their state is simply approved for entry into the country under 1 of any number of programs. They won't know the Canadian here on a work visa from the refugee who entered after months, possibly years of vetting. And that Canadian may be a jew, a muslim, a hindu... So any proclamation by a Governor is simple grandstanding for political reasons. They are well aware that they have no control of who enters the United States and there are no border checks between states. If anything their statements are inflammatory and dangerous because it suggests that states have right they never had. Those rallying behind this are actually rallying against our constitution of the United States that gives the Federal Government this power. But I suggest gathering your courage to suppress your fears and accept that you have no right to know how someone legally in the united states got here and that you need not cower in fear of people who spend up to 2 years going through the refugee approval process.
Ideally, from my point of view, Syria will be rebuilt at some point, and many of those who fled the destruction will want to return to their native land and begin anew because incentives will be offered. However, if they're able to establish themselves in a different country with family and resources intact, they may not want to return which is fine. Hopefully, they, those who don't have violent intent, will have adapted to their environments by then and are an asset to their communities.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: tweetie
Ideally, from my point of view, Syria will be rebuilt at some point, and many of those who fled the destruction will want to return to their native land and begin anew because incentives will be offered. However, if they're able to establish themselves in a different country with family and resources intact, they may not want to return which is fine. Hopefully, they, those who don't have violent intent, will have adapted to their environments by then and are an asset to their communities.
I think our arrogance is going to be the death of us.
Too many honestly believe our freedoms and our materialist way of life, is why we are envied; and once others come to our magnificent shores, and taste the good life, there will be no going back to their backwards, barbaric way of living. It was used before with the "How 'Ya Gonna Keep 'Em Down on the Farm(After They've Seen Paree)", campaign.
The truth is they don't envy our lives and lifestyle, thy despise it. We can pretend that we are all that and a bag of chips as my kids used to say, but we are little more than an embarrassment and an inconvenience in the eyes of many across the globe.
So we can keep pretending that all it is going to take is a little love, compassion, and open doors to fix the problem, but I think this strategy is going to prove to be the death of us. Whether you think that is a good thing or not.
We are we going to learn that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.?
originally posted by: Flint2011
a reply to: Vroomfondel
I few Governors and US Reps have been read in on classified content and have commented that the vetting process for refugees is weak at best. So this is the narrative being used to push this agenda to not permit anyone. I am in the middle on this. We can't trust the Federal Government to do this properly but we can't be Xenophobes either. American security is important but there has to be an appropriate balance.
originally posted by: sapien82
so much for the land of the free , liberty and justice for all !
isnt that what the statue of liberty was for so that new arrivals would see it and feel happy
because they had escaped oppression , now they cant even get in
originally posted by: Flint2011
a reply to: Vroomfondel
I few Governors and US Reps have been read in on classified content and have commented that the vetting process for refugees is weak at best. So this is the narrative being used to push this agenda to not permit anyone. I am in the middle on this. We can't trust the Federal Government to do this properly but we can't be Xenophobes either. American security is important but there has to be an appropriate balance.
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: Flint2011
a reply to: Vroomfondel
I few Governors and US Reps have been read in on classified content and have commented that the vetting process for refugees is weak at best. So this is the narrative being used to push this agenda to not permit anyone. I am in the middle on this. We can't trust the Federal Government to do this properly but we can't be Xenophobes either. American security is important but there has to be an appropriate balance.
Obama's actually refusing to tell anyone any details on what the vetting process consists of. Like a dictator or Dear Leader.
So there may be an effort, there may be absolutely no effort, or there may be pure foolishness disguised as an effort.
The states / governors, cabinet, military-FBI-CIA, congress....have all been told to pound sand by Obama. An absolute affront to modern democracy. No "classified" about it. Fascism absolutely, treason and insurrection possible, as long as nobody but one guy lets them all come rushing in.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Vroomfondel
It would be interesting to know how many on that list refused to take Jews who where fleeing Nazi Germany ?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
I wonder how many of those states already have them. I can see two on the list without any kind of research already.
As I said in a previous thread, the children that were recently placed in my area are very terrifying whenever they're on tv. I'm very glad somebody is willing to step up and keep these six year old girls out of state. I'll sleep better at night now.