Actually, as I stated before in fact, it does flutter. Very subtly. So subtly I half expect it to be some cheap effect overlaying the image of the
stars, but am not sure and unlike seemingly many people do not wish to jump to conclusions. I requested for someone who knows more about time lapsed
star recording videos to comment on whether that fluttering was intense enough. That person does not seem to be you.
That fade into and out of corporeal existence? I cannot recall many satellites being almost perfectly still, and moving back and forth from the Earth
rather than orbiting it. My bet's on hoax or hover drone.
Show me a single video of a moth acting like this, or even a reasonable and logical explanation of how a moth would cause this effect, then reiterate
your claim. As it stands, you're just as bad as UFOers are often said to be. Just because your proposed conclusion is the more likely one doesn't mean
you get to hand-wave it away as correct. Evidence.
I am seeing many claims, I am seeing even less evidence. One person was kind enough to provide a video of a drone that appears visually similar,
though the movement pattern was totally different, and that is why "hover drone" is currently the most likely conclusion, as I see it.
17/11/2015 by Eilasvaleleyn because: Reasons
Sorry but the photo in the OP looks like a moth, I'm just saying. I've seen hundreds of UFO video footage posted on ATS over the years and for a
while there were lots of blurred birds being misreported as UFO's. So excuse me for my cynicism but I need a bit more proof than some moth looking
object fading in and out. There's no context, we don't know the source and I prefer to look for logical answers before going all scifi. It could be
something reflecting onto the camera from headlights and as the object is illuminated and then not it, appearing as if it's cloaking in and out of the
Could be aliens though.
It's a recording. Watch the video in the OP. Time-lapsed, supposedly. Please don't try to explain it away without watching the footage. You might
actually have some useful insight, too. Do you think the stars flicker too faintly for it to be a legitimate recording?
Moths don't act like that, they tend to move. Ever.
As I have stated, my position on this matter is currently
Room for more.
3) Alien Spacecraft
Dust or moisture from a moth that smacked into the lens wouldn't move
You would expect that to appear instantaneously and then fade away, rather than gradually coming into completion.
Unless the uploader of the video is intentionally deceiving us (possible) the "moth dust" explanation is highly unlikely. The chance of it being an
actual moth is almost zero.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, supposedly while recording the camera's lens is... Surrounded by a cardboard tube, I think? A moth would not be likely to
smack it directly without first appearing in view.
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It is a UFO, we have not identified it thus far. In my mind, there are two possible explanations we have proposed before getting to the 'aliens'
answer. Please don't use UFO as a shorthand for spacecraft, that's not what it is, or means.
I am not saying it's an extraterrestrial spacecraft, I'm actually saying it's a military drone. I don't like that explanation. I live near Melbourne.
It is, however, currently, the most likely. Because there is some evidence for it, if weak.
As I mentioned earlier, actual moths move. A lot. They also do not tend to fade in to and out of existence. It may be dust or moisture - somehow - but
it is not a moth. I will be genuinely shocked if it is.
Thank you. While I guess it is actually legitimate as a colloquial term, I dislike it being used that way because it makes UFOlogy seem like "A bunch
of loons who try to prove to aliens built the pyramids or whatever" rather than what it should be, the study of confirmed to exist unknown airborne
Interesting. So far as the amount of lies contained in that video.
That's gen 3 night vision from a video recording device turned into still frames. It fades in because someone has put in a cross fade in editing. It's
clearly not video footage because there is no "noise" in the footage whatsoever. You only need to see 1 seconds worth of gen 3 night vision to know
there would be noise. Why the fakey fakey turn footage into a slideshow routine, to what truth-seeker ever does that favor??
Heh. Appears/vanishes? You mean, is cross faded like a slideshow? It's really amazing how some people think the entire world can be fooled because
they learned how to add transitions in editing software which have only existed for about 50 years prior. If someone can point me to where the creator
stresses this is still shots and explains why they have a gen 3 still-shot camera (and what it is) and why there is no noise then please do. But that
doesn't exist, right?
Even before taking consideration into the object it's all bull#. Show me the raw footage, cos it might actually be something, but the truth has been
so obscured to the point where it's reached youtube vid and forum thread - it's not even worth worrying about. It's like finding a priceless jewel for
your favorite person, and grinding it down continuously until you finally reach them and it's a grain of sand when you give it. Why the F did you do
that?? Why didn't you preserve the original? Why did this video get so obfuscated when there might be something to it, if only they had stuck with the
original? That normally says - because they know they are hiding a greater truth, like, it's an aeroplane or such. It's something they see in their
scope every night, etc. Still, people will lap this stuff up at face value, so...Enjoy your lies!
IR stuff is good. It clearly has many truths in it about UFOs that people aren't prepared to face yet. But not like this. This is clickbait.
I don't mean to derail the thread, actually, that is equal lies, I do totally - but ignore the OP and watch this IR video
Help you understand what generation 3 night vision is and does
how it doesn't come in still photos
Show you what some real unexplained phenomena is
explain what these 100 or so objects are
and that thing at 11-12 minutes
that thing with movement that doesn't occur in nature
It's far more worth your time than this fading in and out crap.
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Lou is out there almost every night, Lou cares enough to actively do something.
He's taken countless hours of strange up there, this is just the most recent.
As far as we can gather.. he's never faked a thing.
you owe the man a formal apology.
And it's weak as piss to so quickly jump to "hoax" it shows a certain conditioning we don't need more of, weaker still to throw it around like candy
when clearly no investigation has taken place.. had you bothered you'd see Lou takes watching for strange things quite seriously and isn't one of the
crazy wooheads that have flooded the internet with pre prepared dis-info about the "aliens" and other BS.
Is it too much to ask.. to be able to have one... just one.. thread wherein baseless accusations aren't thrown and we get to actually ponder some
unknown in some relative peace??
where is the harm in that?
It's an unknown.. big whoop.. let us wonder, or fill us in on what it is...
crazy tales of zenu.. and small minded thugs.. need not apply.
I have a theory,don't shoot me down in flames (don't shot me down in flames, ha ha, get it? ha ha...oh hang on too early), it's just an idea.
We have lots of eucalyptus trees that shed their bark in strips in Australia, during a fire these strips can start to smolder, get blown upwards and
catch on fire 5, 10, 20 kilometers from the original fire site. There have a been a lot of last minute fuel reduction burns in Victoria this last
week, there is a heat wave starting today and summer is a month early so we have had to rush to finish our fuel reduction burns - beside the point. So
I think one of these strips got carried in an updraft, started floating back down, quite serenely, then hit some critical point in its shape or oxygen
level or whatever and ignited, glowed hot for a minute and wen out again. There is no indication how high this light was, so don't know how he can
claim it was massive.
I really do not see a moth. I see three distinct globes on the corners of a triangle that appears to fade into view and then fades out. If it is not
faked it is a great find by the person who shot the video.
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