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‘Blood on his hands’: CIA officials, others implicate Snowden disclosures in Paris attack

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posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 10:51 AM
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Of course the CIA is now a "victim".
This tragedy will prove to be a huge fundraiser for them for years to come




posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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Snowden wanted to be a popular hero and spill the beans about the evil government spying on everybody. Now that his revelations have helped ISIS and other terrorists see how to circumvent surveillance and attack without any warning, he may be less a popular hero amongst all but the most starry eyed fanboys. I am waiting to see how the Russians treat him now that ISIS is attacking them directly and if ISIS communications, following his recommendations, assist in successful attacks.
The Russians are pragmatic and plan to make any attacks on them so costly to ISIS that it will not pay ISIS to attack. They won't be worried about human rights, collateral damage, racial profiling, or forgiveness. Putin has upped the ante already [the Russians have offered a $50 million reward for information about the bomber of their jetliner and have attacked Raqqa with cruise missiles and bombs bigstory.ap.org...] and this is just the start. If they think that Snowden's revelations were important in this or any future attacks, they will squeeze him for what he knows and toss the empty Snowden out into the cold. Where will he go? They may just deport him to the US and let them deal with him.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: pteridine

I don't follow your logic, how is Snowden pointing out a security flaw that the Government was also aware of helping ISIL? How is it possibly reasonable that if a person points out a security risk of any kind....and some wachos use that information to cause harm it's the fault of the person who pointed out the risk to begin with?



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Really?

OK, well, I blame the creation of Israel, the unfettered support for Israel by certain western governments even through blatant slaughter of Palestinians, the CIA, the invasion of Afghanistan and subsequent slaughter of innocent Afghans, the invasion of Iraq and subsequent slaughter of innocent Iraqis, western involvement in Libya and now Syria.


Really? Silly me, I've just been blaming the asshole terrorists and their supporters all this time...



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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So some people believe that most didn't know that the NSA etal has intelligence gathering on everyone and everything until Snowden's release.

Another example of the government leaders disinformation and redirection for their benefit. Although I do believe some leaders are just so closed minded or ignorant that they do believe it.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: MountainLaurel
a reply to: pteridine

I don't follow your logic, how is Snowden pointing out a security flaw that the Government was also aware of helping ISIL? How is it possibly reasonable that if a person points out a security risk of any kind....and some wachos use that information to cause harm it's the fault of the person who pointed out the risk to begin with?


Here is how:


www.breitbart.com...

"The notion that Snowden’s information proved useful to terrorists is not new. In a July article about Islamic State strategy, the New York Times cited intelligence and military officials who said ISIS has “studied revelations from Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, about how the United States gathers information on militants.” As a result, the terror state’s top leaders “now use couriers or encrypted channels that Western analysts cannot crack to communicate.”

After the Paris attack, current and former intelligence officials told Yahoo News that ISIS terror suspects have “moved to increasingly sophisticated methods of encrypted communications, using new software such as Tor, that intelligence agencies are having difficulty penetrating – a switch that some officials say was accelerated by the disclosures of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.”



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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God the lack of intelligence here is frightening, seriously it is.

This has nothing to do with Snowden, his leaks. These statements were structured for one purpose and one purpose only, so they can force people to accept that they should all be monitored by our government’s 100% of the time for our own 'security'

It is always the same, problem, reaction, solution.

Problem, they are no longer able to just invade anyone’s privacy, they have been caught out
Reaction, if we were allowed to read all your emails, monitor all your calls, tack every single thing you do this would not of happened
Solution, we will bring all the monitoring back, don’t you just feel safe now folks
Come on people open your eyes stop falling for the same old BS time after time, all this dumbness is just getting old



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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What's funny is that Anonymous just took down over 3,000 pro-ISIS twitter feeds, but the CIA sits around moping about Snowden.

One Day Later, Anonymous Already Takes Down 3,824 Pro-ISIS Twitter Accounts


With over 3,800 just on the first day, the group seems more determined this time around to finally put an end to the terrorist group.

Just before the Paris attacks, the Ghost Security Group, another secret hacking posse, revealed that they traced Bitcoin wallets holding more than $3 million / €2.8 million back to known ISIS members.

With Anonymous’ most recent additions of known ISIS members to their database, law enforcement agencies and other hacking groups might be able to track down more accounts and hinder the terrorists' activities.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Really?

OK, well, I blame the creation of Israel, the unfettered support for Israel by certain western governments even through blatant slaughter of Palestinians, the CIA, the invasion of Afghanistan and subsequent slaughter of innocent Afghans, the invasion of Iraq and subsequent slaughter of innocent Iraqis, western involvement in Libya and now Syria.

But yeah, lets all blame the whistleblower because he aired the US's dirty laundry.

Tom Clancy couldn't make this sh!t up, I swear, the western propaganda machine is scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses when it's blatantly obvious to blind Freddy who is to blame and why.

S&F for posting what is quintessential propaganda from the MSM.

I blame the Muslims who if they had left Israel in peace, none of this would be happening.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: WP4YT

I agree. We need to concentrate on our own in-home problems and not other nations. Smack someone, and they'll in turn smack you back.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: PrinceDreamer
God the lack of intelligence here is frightening, seriously it is.

This has nothing to do with Snowden, his leaks. These statements were structured for one purpose and one purpose only, so they can force people to accept that they should all be monitored by our government’s 100% of the time for our own 'security'

It is always the same, problem, reaction, solution.

Problem, they are no longer able to just invade anyone’s privacy, they have been caught out
Reaction, if we were allowed to read all your emails, monitor all your calls, tack every single thing you do this would not of happened
Solution, we will bring all the monitoring back, don’t you just feel safe now folks
Come on people open your eyes stop falling for the same old BS time after time, all this dumbness is just getting old



The statements were simply that Snowden assisted ISIS and other terrorists by providing the details of the monitoring of communications and recommending alternatives.


God the lack of intelligence here is frightening, seriously it is.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Talk about abdicating responsibility , the hawks are a hawking.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Of course they would blame Snowden. They couldn't point to their own incompetence. US and French intelligence apparently ignored a warning from Iraq a few days earlier that ISIS was planning an attack. It's pretty bad when Iraq has better intelligence than 'superior' western countries. Too bad Snowden wasn't around for 9/11 for Bush to blame because he ignored an intelligence briefing a few days before that warned of an imminent attack.

"Iraq warned of ISIS threat one day before Paris attacks"
nypost.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 08:34 PM
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For what it's worth, TOR is hardly a secret.. hasn't been for a long time. It was already heavily in use for many criminal elements. Saying that Snowden is the catalyst for terrorists using TOR is ridiculous. Unless they were blithering idiots, they were already well aware of TOR, encryption, and other methods to hide their communications, and to facilitate their illegal purchases.

Snowden has never covered anything in his videos, or the revelations by Snowden, that would make a terrorist more effective, unless they were downright stupid and ignorant to begin with. Revealing that the government -was- spying on all to find a few terrorists, is quite different from revealing HOW they were doing it.

If teenage kids 10 years ago could host MP3 servers on domain-side networks for fun (which I witnessed in person), a network of supposedly advanced terrorists should certainly in this day and age, be able to conduct covert actions on the Internet, without the supposed revelations by Snowden. TOR is no secret. Encryption has been around for ages. Snowden did not reveal anything new that would help them be "more secret."



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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How long did it take to find Bin Laden?

Lol clowns.
A reporter and cameraman found him in a cave but the CIA just couldn't handle it. Silly Snowden, that's his fault too! Duh!



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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Cia knew about Paris all along...

They aided in establishing isis.

They think we are stupid while they play stupid.

Pathetic world we live in. Only because those controlling it, are pathetic children with power beyond belief.

F Snowden?

F**K YOU CIA!
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posted on Nov, 18 2015 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

What seems strange , is that Israel should according to the reported hate list of ISIS be number public enemy number one. I know the Mossad. is world class , but how come its been New York, London, Paris, Moscow, that have born the brunt of major attacks, where the death lists have been really high, and Israel gets the occasional rocket and single idiot attacks, who usually get shot first.



posted on Nov, 18 2015 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I blame Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick.

But then again, he is always my go-to scapegoat guy.



posted on Nov, 18 2015 @ 02:01 AM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
What's funny is that Anonymous just took down over 3,000 pro-ISIS twitter feeds, but the CIA sits around moping about Snowden.

One Day Later, Anonymous Already Takes Down 3,824 Pro-ISIS Twitter Accounts


With over 3,800 just on the first day, the group seems more determined this time around to finally put an end to the terrorist group.

Just before the Paris attacks, the Ghost Security Group, another secret hacking posse, revealed that they traced Bitcoin wallets holding more than $3 million / €2.8 million back to known ISIS members.

With Anonymous’ most recent additions of known ISIS members to their database, law enforcement agencies and other hacking groups might be able to track down more accounts and hinder the terrorists' activities.


So true. They need to put the info out there, compare and contrast how they are trolling, plus this action against ISIS, compared to the CIA. Then again I don't believe all the hacktivists are co opted, so maybe something can come from it, so far more telling info than what the state dept is doing.



posted on Nov, 18 2015 @ 04:48 AM
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Excuses excuses. Usa love to point the finger, but the USA have played big role in ISIL's rise. There trying to get rid of Assad. But russia have halted that progress. All those refugees crossing the border are know ones fault but the USA ! Poor tactics poor government corrupt throughout. Sorry lol.. Bigger picture.. Once Vlad gets rid of these bankers ( the ones the run the whole show). Then we'll be good mate



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