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I will not directly call them stupid but more like caught up in the heat of the moment.
...is a lot of hate going around right now, I am not going to let it get to me, because is counterproductive.
Be well, I am sure things will calm down soon enough.
originally posted by: jimmyx
we here in the western countries should just sing "Kumbaya", praise love and peace, and everything will be ok....there, I was about as positive as I can stomach.
originally posted by: Tyrion79
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I agree and thank you for further explanation on this.
Although hatred can be taught or inflicted as your example has shown, it still isn't human nature to hate, kill or otherwise harm others, unless provoked by the aforementioned.
Did I walk into a weird loop hole?
He said people didn't know what devout Muslims were really like, and it is a bad religion. That was coming from someone who really knows that community. I also know Muslims who aren't bad, but that's because they aren't true Muslims.
The Qur`an also deals with relationships of the Muslims with the non-believers at the individual and collective levels. Unfortunately, many non-believers showed much hatred and enmity towards Islam and Muslims, throwing Muslims out of their homes (3:195), or making fun of their prayer and religion generally (5:57-58), and either waging war or kindling the flames of war between Muslims and some other non-believers (5:64) or by other subversive devices (3:72). Although at an individual level Muslims can have even such intimate relationship as that of marriage with those non-believers who are truly monotheists (5:5, 2:221, 5:72), Muslims are advised not to take hostile non-believers as allies against the purposes of Islam and the collective interests of the Muslim community (5:51, 57). Those non-believers who are not hostile are explicitly exempted from this advice (60:8) and even in case of hostile non-believers the Qur`an holds forth the hope that hostility will some day change to love: “It may be that God will generate love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity. God is capable (of all things); God is forgiving and merciful” (60:7).
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.
originally posted by: 222mockingbirdlane
Great thread, by the way (although immature title) I agree that all Muslims shouldn't be put in the bad file. When people say they have Muslim friends etc. so do I. I also have met many people; Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Who associate with the religion just because they want to have something to say when asked, and most likely that is the religion of their family. But, are the christians and Catholics actually going to church and worshiping regularly other then on Easter? Are the so-called Muslims worshiping in a mosque. Do your Muslim friends actually worship in a mosque ,bow down, knees on the ground forhead on the ground?
My Family used to vacation and hang out with my stepdad's friend and his family. This man was from Lebanon, owned a few big businesses over there, but lived full time in California. He had been raised Muslim, and of course his extended family was Muslim, even the ones that also lived in California. He would fly back to Lebanon every 3 months for his businesses. He even had some obligatory ties to Hesballeh. He said they were kind of like the mob over there, in charge by force, but also well loved by some of the community for dunding a hospital to be built and other charitable deeds. He knew he had to feign being a Muslim when he visited there, but said he would never really want to be one, he considered himself Christian. He said people didn't know what devout Muslims were really like, and it is a bad religion. That was coming from someone who really knows that community. I also know Muslims who aren't bad, but that's because they aren't true Muslims.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
I guess if you equate the dislike of muslim jihadist to that of all muslims then it would compel one to call the whole world stupid.
If the racist in chief would have done his job yrs ago this would not be an issue but I suppose it is just a coincidence that he makes all the wrong moves for us but always seems not to effect those muslim jihadist.
We can put the issue right up there with net neutrality. meaning that it has been that long since we were all called stupid.
In an emotional note on Facebook titled “You will not have my hatred”, Leiris wrote: “On Friday evening you stole the life of an exceptional person, the love of my life, the mother of my son, but you will not have my hatred.
“I don’t know who you are and I don’t want to know, you are dead souls. If this God for whom you kill blindly made us in his image, every bullet in the body of my wife is a wound in his heart.
“So no, I will not give you the satisfaction of hating you. You want it, but to respond to hatred with anger would be to give in to the same ignorance that made you what you are.”
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
originally posted by: Benevolent HereticThe hatred, judgment, homophobia, sexism, racism, religionism and just random nastiness here makes me ask what I'm doing here. I don't belong here any more.