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The Obvious Strategy of The Islamic State Is Working, You’re All Being Stupid

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posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: haman10

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: haman10
Some people try to justify their feelings towards muslims by saying that they do not hate us , but they are simply cautious about us .

Yay ! Thanks for that.

You see that guy over there? He's a muzzy . Be cautious. He might just blow up .

Sounds pretty much bigotry to me.


So if you're equating caution with bigotry, like the OP is equating bigotry with being stupid, then I'm unashamedly and admittedly a stupid bigot, a label I don't mind as bestowed on me by anonymous posters on a site that don't even know me. If being stupid and cautious means the preservation and safety of my loved ones, then label me all you want. Your opinions mean squat to me.
Funny you should talk about labelling , cause you labeled me with terrorism just because i'm a muslim and yet i'm the bad guy here as i called those who are "cautious" near me bigots .

It's exactly like saying : "i'm cautious near black people cause i want to protect my family" !! well boohoo ! you're a racist and there is no need to sugar coat it .

"I'm cautious near jews cause i wanna protect my family " thats exactly the same .

So don't turn this on me pal . it's not me calling you a bigot , it's you calling me a terrorist .

judging people based on religion , affiliation and race is the definition of bigotry to me .

i cannot tolerate people who are judgemental towards others due to their skin color , or the holy book they read . yep , i'll punch them right in the face where ever i see them .



So Muslims label non-believers as infidels, who should be converted or they are going to hell, and and worst killed? That's not labeling? That's not bigotry? You'd "punch them in the face"? Ah, the religion of peace showing it's true colors once again.




posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Spider879

Because no one blames white people in general but white supremacist, it's all in your mind


Really? Nobody? Then why have these MSM supported BLM groups and university groups been shaming and attacking white people in public?

#BlackLivesMatter Protesters Disrupt Students in Library: ‘F*ck You, You Filthy White F*cks!’


originally posted by: aorAki

Interesting. Did you read the posts on that link you posted?

Here is but one -



This is Frankist Cultural Marxism and these 'protesters' are laying the seeds for another Hitler/Zionist Transfer Agreement. They don't know it, but the intention is to make 'White People' hate 'Blacks.' When 'Whites' can't take anymore, our Frankist controllers are hoping that 'Whites' and others will be inclined to accept 'Black Genocide' and/or the removal of 'Blacks' from America. There are reports that FEMA has the same number of body bags as the number of 'Black Males' in America. It won't be just 'Blacks' that suffer though, the government wants the 'White' population reduced too, something 'they've' already been successful at for the last 500 years, back to the time of the 'Unknown War' in England.

So successful in fact that Japanese researchers have concluded that, on the current trajectory, the Nordic White race will go extinct in 100-200 years - the Alpine and Mediterranean Whites will last longer, but will be the next races to go. Talmudic Zionists (which is like Sabbatean-Frankism) have even stated that the last generation of Nordic Whites has already been born (their biggest adversary). Learn how the London Tavistock's psychoanalysis manipulated our minds through music, movies and more (YouTube 'Century of Self'). Very sad that the people who were once known as the Yngling Dynasty of Elves and the Vikings are almost gone. The Japanese, who are 5.31% Nordic White, will be all that's left, some Koreans too.

We can all thank the Banker Priest Kings for what's going on, the literal descendants of Nimrod rule us, or as some call them, the direct descendants of Eve and EL (aka Satan). The last war will be a spiritual one too.


originally posted by: TheBulk
I want to know why you all are so worried about Muslims, when it's Muslims and their hatred leading to dead people all over the world? Muslims kill people and you all lecture the victims!


Crikey dude, that's some pretty big supposition stuff going on right there, when it's clearly everyone, not just Muslims.
Don't be a dick.


Well no, but a majority of the terrorism going on in the world now is being done by Muslims. Why are you so protective of them, when you dont show this kind of concern in any other instance? What about some concern for those Muslims hate?


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did you read the replies to that link you posted, it's very interesting, good read.


This is Frankist Cultural Marxism and these 'protesters' are laying the seeds for another Hitler/Zionist Transfer Agreement. They don't know it, but the intention is to make 'White People' hate 'Blacks.' When 'Whites' can't take anymore, our Frankist controllers are hoping that 'Whites' and others will be inclined to accept 'Black Genocide' and/or the removal of 'Blacks' from America.

There are reports that FEMA has the same number of body bags as the number of 'Black Males' in America. It won't be just 'Blacks' that suffer though, the government wants the 'White' population reduced too, something 'they've' already been successful at for the last 500 years, back to the time of the 'Unknown War' in England.

So successful in fact that Japanese researchers have concluded that, on the current trajectory, the Nordic White race will go extinct in 100-200 years - the Alpine and Mediterranean Whites will last longer, but will be the next races to go. Talmudic Zionists (which is like Sabbatean-Frankism) have even stated that the last generation of Nordic Whites has already been born (their biggest adversary).

Learn how the London Tavistock's psychoanalysis manipulated our minds through music, movies and more (YouTube 'Century of Self'). Very sad that the people who were once known as the Yngling Dynasty of Elves and the Vikings are almost gone.

The Japanese, who are 5.31% Nordic White, will be all that's left, some Koreans too. We can all thank the Banker Priest Kings for what's going on, the literal descendants of Nimrod rule us, or as some call them, the direct descendants of Eve and EL (aka Satan). The last war will be a spiritual one too.

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posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: jjkenobi

The next time you see a member calling for Christians to be nuked, deported or executed alert the staff.

If you want to criticise Muslims, that's cool. If you take issue with interpretations of Qur'an law or the pillars of Islam, that's cool too. Don't like that inequality in Afghanistan? Say so! Don't get me started on hateful Clerics inciting violence against their host nations...

All that's being asked is that ATS stops being used as a platform for mindless hatred and extremism. There's a massive difference between passionate criticism and hateful calls for the slaughter of millions.


I think there's a bit of twisting, perverting, and taking the OP out of context going on here. It was to be expected, though. I felt SO made his position clear enough, and did not forbid the general debate and disagreement that is prevalent in the religious forums.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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I have nothing against muslims.
I HATE MY OWN DAMN GOVERMENT!
AND I AHTE THE IMPERIALISTIC ASSHOLES WHO CREATED THIS MESS!



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: Klassified

There's some kind of propagation effect that kicks in after ten pages. We all lose sight of the OP and start chasing our own tails.




posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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Maybe we need to go to the source of the problem. The Catholic Church who created Islam
www.redicecreations.com...


How the Vatican created Islam. The astonishing story from an ex-Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera, which was told to him by Cardinal Bea while he was at the Vatican.
2006 04 13

By Alberto Rivera (i actually have one of his books it's intriguing as hell)
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edit on 11/17/2015 by awareness10 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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RE: The title says you're being stupid, NOT you are stupid.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: TheLotLizard

The title says you're being stupid, NOT you are stupid. Calling people out on their behaviour is not the same as labelling the person.

You have to admit, the behaviour is pretty stupid. Hate-mongering, violence mongering, fear generating crap. All designed to trick people into giving up their freedoms.

But yeah, I agree with you. It WOULD be monumentally stupid to fall for the hoax.








What is the difference between the two?


HUGE. One labels the person, the other just calls out the behaviour.



...both sides are equally guilty if you start calling people's ideas "stupid".


It's not "people's ideas" when they get sucked into a marketing strategy, and let themselves get played.

I happen to disagree with SO on whose strategy this is. But I absolutely agree that anyone who just buys into it hook-line-and-sinker without critical thought is just being stupid. I also think fighting for one's "right" to remain blissfully unaware (that one is being played) is pretty stupid too.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: StallionDuck

Ahem.

The OP was a statement that ATS won't accept posts that condemn millions of people for the actions of the few. It was also saying no to members who wish violence on millions because of the ignorant words and vicious deeds of the few.



I'm seriously thinking you're totally against muslim bashing. Totally sympathetic to their cause, but seriously anti Christian. That would explain a lot. A whole lot.


Seriously?? You actually wrote seriously?! The guy says no more idiotic comments about nuking the ME or making people wear badges. That's a common sense call for decency. And you turn it into a grubby innuendo that he's a closet Muslim or sympathiser?

Dude, go and look at that 'BS detector' in your avatar and see if your batteries have died.



Didn't you read the OP and how it's directed at attacks on Muslim? Did you also note how each response constantly compared Christianity with what's going on with this issue? Did you even note that the OP never directly stated any other example but Muslim direction? You can sit on that bandwagon all you want, but I can read between the lines just fine.


This issue has been going on a LONG time here. It's only now and only directed to the position of people against Muslim people. Hey.. I'm all for pointing the finger at the radical side of things but to ignore the rest is a serious issue. Why not directly include other issues that seem to fish out of the same boat?


btw... My BS detector works just fine. It went off the charts on this one.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: 0zzymand0s

I do understand what you're saying but you're missing my point. I'll say it another way.

Christians... those people who actually follow the words of Christ, hence the name, true Christians, do not do this. Radicals do. Those that take the word out of context. Those that follow some twisted form of what they would call Christianity.

The same is true for Muslim and any other religion that have radicals or crazy people. By definition, Christians can not commit such acts and truly call themselves Christian.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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I think this gets to the same point as the OP.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: soficrow


Sorry... those people are NOT Christians. Painting with a broad brush? OP said so....
Just because you call an orange an apple, doesn't mean it's a banana



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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It seems this thread has provoked a lot of the sort of thing it was trying to prevent. Emotional triggers are so deep seeded, it's hard for any of us to take a step back and look at everything with the objectivity of what most of us are - a third party.

Step 1 - Calm down.

Step 2 - THEN debate.

I'm on board with a good debate, but certain topics often make us lose ourselves somewhere amidst the arguing. Just be careful you don't let that happen, lest you become more of a problem than a solution in the whole ordeal.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

I dunno...seemed pretty clear to me. This site cannot tolerate the advocacy of genocide and nuclear war against a people. It stems from the recent calling for genocide and nuclear war against "muslims" following the attack in Paris.

Its incredibly clear, actually. No one is excluded. Some are included just because of current events. It is so incredibly clear, actually, I struggle to understand ways in which it could fail to be incredibly clear.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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"Stupid" Well allReligion is stupid when it gets right down to it..


Point in fact.. person opens book... finds a rhyme called "kill the non believer"
person goes out and kills said non believer!

That's stupid..! as are all functioning mentally ill zealots.

You cant blame the people for kicking back against this kind of dogma..

All followers of religion are mentally ill in my opinion.

All the major religions think they are the chosen , when in fact their all delusional beings.
chasing a fairy tale written centuries before, by a collection of other delusional beings.

meh! i can't stand religion!



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
All that's being asked is that ATS stops being used as a platform for mindless hatred and extremism.


If they don't think it's "mindless hatred", but, instead see it as "justified righteousness", then they're not going to stop. ATS WILL be used as a platform for mindless hatred and bigotry until ATS does something more serious than writing a wonderful thread, asking people to be grown-ups.

SO is exactly right. What ISIS hopes to create is an equal and opposite hatred that mirrors their own. And, unfortunately, here on ATS, it's rampant. You can tell bigots not to be bigots. But if they feel justified, they will absolutely use your board as a platform.

The hatred, judgment, homophobia, sexism, racism, religionism and just random nastiness here makes me ask what I'm doing here. I don't belong here any more.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: StallionDuck

This issue has been going on a LONG time here.


Speaking of "long time", the situation we are facing has two sources:

Very old, where the Roman Empire was split in two as Constantine made Christianity the only religion allowed in the Empire and created Constantinople as his headquarters, the most eastern section of Roman Rule, essentially cutting the East from the West with the Bosphorus.

Not so old was the partitioning of the ME through the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916, the Treaty of Sevres (1920) and the Treaty of Lausanne (1923).

All the troubles we have today stem directly from those actions.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

You're so busy 'reading between the lines' that you've missed the actual message.

You can criticise Muslims to your heart's content. It's calling for genocides and extremism that won't be accepted here.

Go try it out. Go on! Find a thread and call out some refugees.




posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic


I don't belong here any more.


Don't say that BH ;( we need folk like you to stay here on ATS for your great reasoning skills that I have seen you use on many threads. Its folk like you that keep me coming back to ATS. You're like a breath of fresh air at times.

Whilst I would agree with most of your points, I must admit the homophobia seems to be decreasing rapidly on ATS in the last 12 months. When I first joined ATS homophobia was rampant in the threads, but alas that now seems to be a distant memory. We still have some morons who think its acceptable to be "Hetrosexist", but that now normally means they are fighting their own inner demons rather than having any issue with the "Gays" per se.

However on the whole "religionism", i would concur with your thoughts, I myself have often been dragged into many arguments with fundamentalist on ATS. IMO there seem to be a lot of fundamentalist on this site and they are definitely not from the Muslim members.



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

You need to study a whole lot more before you try to play logic games. Maybe start here:


Fallacy

... fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning for the construction of an argument.[1][2] A fallacious argument may be deceptive by appearing to be better than it really is. Some fallacies are committed intentionally to manipulate or persuade by deception, while others are committed unintentionally due to carelessness or ignorance.
Fallacies are commonly divided into "formal" and "informal". A formal fallacy can be expressed neatly in a standard system of logic, such as propositional logic,[1] while an informal fallacy originates in an error in reasoning other than an improper logical form.[3]



posted on Nov, 17 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: StallionDuck

You're so busy 'reading between the lines' that you've missed the actual message.

You can criticise Muslims to your heart's content. It's calling for genocides and extremism that won't be accepted here.

Go try it out. Go on! Find a thread and call out some refugees.



Where are you getting that I'm on board with any of these? Look bub... I've read every single message since the first OP started. You should do the same. You apparently missed something.



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