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posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 06:41 PM
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You can build your own craft and fly them. The idea has been around a long time... Problem is that it takes a heck of a lot of power do to anything useful.

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posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 06:49 PM
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Lovely, some of the pics look a little faked though.
I'm sure theres someone on this community who has tried to make one.



posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 10:21 PM
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Dont worry, the US Gov has a fleet of such technology, X Craft, operationally deployed at Area 51, Pine Gap Australia, and a few other places.

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Brown was an American physicist, who was heavily involved in electrogravitics research. In the middle 1920s, he discovered it is possible to create an artificial gravity field by charging an electrical capacitor to high voltage.

By 1958, he had managed to work his way to the point where he had succeeded in developing a 15-inch diameter model saucer that could lift over 110 percent of its weight. What his experiments had inaugurated was the new field of electrogravitics, or the technology of controlling gravity through the use of very high voltage electric charges.

By 1952, Brown gave a demonstration to a Air Force major general in which Brown flew a pair of 18-inch disc airfoils suspended from opposite ends of a rotatable arm. The discs were electrified with 50,000 volts and circuited at a speed of 12 miles per hour.

Approximately one year later, he flew a set of three- foot diameter saucers for Air Force officials and representatives from several major aircraft companies.

These discs were energized with 150,000 volts, and sped around the 50-foot diameter course so fast that the subject was immediately classified. A report by ``Interavia'' magazine noted that the discs would attain speeds of several hundred miles per hour when charged with several hundred thousand volts.

The secret to Brown's discs was that they were charged with a high positive voltage, via a wire, running along their leading edge. A high negative voltage ran along their trailing edge, also on a wire. As the wires ionized the air around them, a study by Paul A. LaViolette said, a dense cloud of positive ions would form ahead of the craft and a corresponding cloud of negative ions would form behind the craft.

LaViolette said that Brown's research showed that, like the charged plates of his capacitors, these ion clouds induced a gravitational force directed in the minus to plus direction. In short, a gravitational well formed ahead of the disc which pulled the craft, while a gravitational hill formed behind the craft and pushed it. As the disc moved forward in response to its self-generated gravity field, it would carry with it its positive and negative ion clouds and their associated electrogravity gradient. The discs in effect would ride their advancing gravity wave much like surfers ride an ocean wave, LaViolette said.

The occupants of one of the saucers, if there were occupants, would feel no stress at all no matter how sharp the turn or how great the acceleration, LaViolette said. This was because the ship and is occupants and the load are all responding equally to the wavelike distortion of the local grsharp the turn or h

Brown by 1952 had put together a proposal, code named ``Project Winterhaven,'' LaViolette said, which suggested that the military develop an antigravity combat saucer with Mach 3 capability. As early as 1954, according to a report prepared by the private aviation intelligence firm Aviation Studies International Ltd., the Air Force had begun plans to fund research that would accomplish Project Winterhaven's objectives.

That report, issued in 1956 and called ``Electrogravitic Systems: An Explanation of Electrostatic Motion, Dynamic Counterbary and Barycentric Control,'' was originally classified as ``confidential.'' That report mentioned the names of more than 10 major aircraft companies which were actively involved in the electrogravitics research in an attempt to duplicate or extend Brown's work.

Since that time, LaViolette said, much of the work in electro-antigravity has proceeded in Air Force black projects on a fairly large scale.

LaViolette's study, known as ``The U.S. Antigravity Squadron,'' has as its main contention that the Air Force is using Brown's antigravity ideas to help the B-2 bomber operate.

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posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 12:35 AM
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The only challenge to this type of technology is the amount of power it takes to move something like that. If you look at the power to weight ratio of the lifters on that webpage there is no way they could every fly with a power unit capible of producing enough energy on board.

I'm sure that science has found a way though and we just don't know about it. Yet.



posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 06:19 AM
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Nuclear power supply perhaps?

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posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 11:53 AM
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Nuclear power supply perhaps?


That would be my guess but there still is a weight issue. Shielding from nuclear reactors in itself is extremely heavy.

I'm betting some one figured out how to make a super capacitor operate at room temperature. That would solve a lot of power problems and weight could remain very low.



posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 03:13 PM
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This is from a page on my website:



The aircraft probably would have retained its conventional jet engines for use during takeoff and landing. Once airborne and away from populated areas, the crew would bring the reactor up to power and the aircraft would cruise on nuclear heat. The intention was to create an aircraft with nonstop around-the-world range, endurance measured in days, and near sonic speed, all while carrying a heavy nuclear weapon payload.


www.air-attack.com...



posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 11:03 PM
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That is interesting. I suppose even if you needed a whole lot of heavy shielding if the reactor produced enough power it could lift anything off the ground. Thanks for the link.

One other thing... Look at that lady riding the big engine! What is she doing? Hmmmmm? Scandelous.






posted on Jun, 13 2003 @ 06:26 AM
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hah lol.

I actually copied that article from another website, so don't thank me


[Edited on 13-6-2003 by Zion Mainframe]



posted on Jun, 13 2003 @ 06:16 PM
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It works and here is a future power supply option.Link
And the group I am part ofAAG

I have made two so far and it's pretty amazing stuff


[Edited on 13-6-2003 by Fry2]






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