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Mass Shootings and... Meat Consumption?

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: sekerofknowlege

Let's ponder that last statement for a second. They say "You are what you eat". I whole heartedly believe in that. Well, meat is murder.


I'm pretty sure the plants I eat are dead after I'm done with them, too. Eating is murder. Unless you live on a diet of Twinkies, which are totally artificial.

Eta: With the possible exception of corn, which may, in fact, still be viable afterwards.



Could it be that because society is consuming meat on a regular basis, it's influencing our thought patterns in a sick and twisted way?


People have been eating meat for quite a while. To test that conjecture, though, it should be possible to simply look at groups that eat mostly meat, and those that eat mostly vegetation. Consider the Inuit. I don't see them as being bloodthirsty barbarians.



When we eat the meat, the DNA of the animal mixes up with our DNA. That's a fact. In fact, "eating ANY form of animal product will shut your DNA down...slowly". projectavalon.net...


Two issues here. First, little from "Project Avalon" is factual. Second, it's not a fact. You don't incorporate DNA from food into your DNA. I mean, how stupid would that be? DNA is digested into sugars, phosphate, purines and pyrimidines. One doesn't become a stalk of broccoli with legs by eating a lot of it.



So meat eating shuts our DNA down; doesn't sound too good!


Or plausible.



What if this meat consumption is actually causing us to devolve into a primitive, Neanderthal like state in which become obsessive about.... killing, survival, and lower vibrational, carnal thought patterns like lust, sex, etc.


What if vegetable consumption is causing us to devolve into leaves?

BTW, there are no "vibrational" thought patterns. "Vibrations", as you're using the term, don't exist.



Far fetched? Perhaps, but I'll let this quote from the Essene Gospel of Peace possibly back up my opinion;

"But he who kills the beast without a cause, though the beast attack him not, though lust for slaughter, or for its flesh, or for its hide, or yet for its tusks, evil is the deed which he does, FOR HE TURNED INTO A WILD BEAST HIMSELF".


Yet the Cherokee sacred texts state that we can eat any meat, except that of the crawfish, which was spoiled during the creation of the world. And they are far more in touch with nature than the Essenes.



So according to this text, it's not only evil to kill and eat flesh, but it causes one to devolve into a wicked beast!

Interesting.


Obviously they are wrong, since they conflict with the knowledge of the Native Americans.

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 08:24 PM
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Meat contains Beta blockers which actually settles people down. I don't think there is any correlation between meat eating and mass killings. There could be a correlation between meat eating and warring though. But that would be a territorial dispute caused killing. Even vegetarian animals fight with each other.

I do think that diet has a part in people getting a little weird. There have been too many changes over the years which can lead to irrational and schizophrenic or delusional thinking. People can get crazy from changing to a vegetarian diet too. It depends on a person's ability to properly detox and utilize the foods and that is governed by ancestral eating habits.

Too much change too fast can unbalance things, that can happen when changing to a vegetarian diet too. There are many people who could not survive well eating vegetarian. There are many genetic variances in people. Now cleansing the body for a week is probably good for everyone, but the plant defense chemicals can make some people looney or sick. One shoe does not fit all people.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 08:32 PM
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I do not think the consumption of any kind of meat product is the key factor to the increase of mass shootings. There is some kind of specific event, I can't recall the exact name of it at the moment, that acts like a trigger or phenomenon that states when a particular event occurs such mass shootings another will follow it. Regardless of whether it is considered to be a false flag operation.

The study of the behaviour of sub-atomic particles, which make up everything, may help to understand why and how thing like this happen.

edit on 15-11-2015 by Tindalos2013 because: Additonal sentence.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: Phage




Are you sure about that? I mean. Sharks eat a lot animals. So do a whole lot of other animals, eat animals, masses of them. Bats for example, they consume mass quantities of bugs. And bugs are animals. At, least, I don't think they are plants.


In the context of human dietary needs eating meat is not necessarily a necessity when there are alternative sources of the proteins we require.
With the species you mentioned that's the easiest way for them to gain the required proteins and essential amino acids. At this point in our evolutionary development we humans have gained the ability to choose from a wide variety of sources for our diet. Much of that thanks to the technology we developed among other things.

A lot of cultures have adopted the practice of meat-eating more as a dietary ritual than for it's positive effects on our health. e.g The Aztecs aristocratic class practiced ritualistic cannibalism it was positively reinforced for it to be considered acceptable, a few royal families in Europe did it as well.
I think the same logic can be applied to animal products, we've been conditioned on a societal level for centuries to think that killing animals is one of the only ways to gain the proteins that we need.

So yes humans are to blame for the mass consumption of animal products for our diets.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: NateTheAnimator



So yes humans are to blame for the mass consumption of animal products for our diets.

I see. But doesn't that sort of go without saying?
Who else would be "to blame" for what humans eat, if not humans. Our reptilian overlords?

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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Parasites can be in control of one's desires. That's why once you go on a TRUE detox you can rid the body of certain entities more in control than you are. Being a vegetarian or vegan without first ridding yourself of the gunk of the past is like placing a fresh salad on a dirty ass plate. Simply not eating meat anymore is not good enough. If these people that are effed in the mind due to many factors beyond meat, went on a detoxification journey their emotional body would go through the same metamorphosis. Eating meat acidifies the body by wrecking the kidneys which eliminate toxic acids from the lymphatic system. Let your kidneys and adrenals be down from too much protein and over stimulation from meat hormones and you're living in a state of disease chilling in a lower vibrational region of life. Our Ape bodies aren't designed to handle meat but "But my grandma lived to be 102 years old eating bacon and Jimmy dean". Yea, she would have lived to be 202 by eating properly. "But I eat meat all day and don't want to kill anybody!". Yeah but you want to eat that dead animal someone else killed. You're linked to death regardless. Fall back for a while on the animal tissue and see if you get angry and super aggressive for a while because you're "hungry". Return the Human to its natural state with a diet it was designed to consume after cleansing the body of the toxic elements that has flucked the brain chemistry and see how you feel about Life then. You are what you ate, you can be what you eat. Go find your Human potential by supporting this vessel with the proper nutrition.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: NautPsycho



Our Ape bodies aren't designed to handle meat

My teeth say different.

You know wild chimps eat meat, right?

We are omnivores. We evolved eating meat and vegetables. Our bodies do just fine with both of them.

To eat meat or not is a personal choice. A dear, dear friend of mine passed recently, at the age of 84. He was a very strict vegan. My father died at 93, he was a very confirmed omnivore. He also liked his rum.



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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 10:51 PM
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Your teeth because you have canines? Even herbivores have canines. Chimps also eat the fleas off of each others backs and they even eat bags of chips and donuts if given. I'm speaking about the natural state. Before man said eggs and bacon was breakfast. I'm talking the design of the digestive system, the eliminating organs and the horrible effect meat, dairy and processed foods have on them. Let the World be as luscious in fruit trees and vegetation as it once was and I'm sure those wild chimps would choose up. We are Frugivores, actually. Strict Vegan means nothing if you do not clean your body up from the filth of the past. I can make a "Vegan" pizza that is horrible for your digestion with bad flours, cooked nut cheeses, wheat gluten fake meat, carcinogenic as can be but because it's "Vegan" doesn't make it better. Living colorful ripe hydrating fruits, soaked nuts and seeds, dark leafy greens eatin with proper food combinations and clean water. Good luck these days though unless you grow your own or live in the tropics. People think eating beans and rice will make you healthy haha. Genetics come into play as well. When you properly detox you can begin to regenerate damaged cells and bring the best out of your genetics. Honestly, raw vegan is the way to go for optimal health but to avoid being a suicide bomber I'd say vegetarian or vegan is good enough, after a 6 month detox on raw fruits, herbal tinctures, teas and distilled water. There are those who have lived to be over a hundred on the standard American diet because they came from genetics that weren't exposed to this bullshat quite yet. Nowadays you're lucky if your DNA hasn't been tampered with via GMO and pharmaceuticals. Yes though, it is a personal choice but as a Co creator of this reality we share, if the choice were to not eat meat this reality would be a better one for us all. We don't all have to be hippies and such...look on the vibe side.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: NautPsycho




I'm talking the design of the digestive system, the eliminating organs and the horrible effect meat,

Compare our digestive system to that of a true herbivore. Notice the difference? We evolved eating meat. Chimps eat meat. We evolved as, and are, omnivores. It is a very good survival characteristic.



We don't all have to be hippies and such...look on the vibe side.
You said "don't be hippies" and "look at the vibe side" in the same sentence? Do the words cognitive dissonance mean anything to you?

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: Phage




I see. But doesn't that sort of go without saying? Who else would be "to blame" for what humans eat, if not humans. Our reptilian overlords?


If we agree on that to some extent I don't really see your point in your first response to me. Yes other mammalian species eat a variety of meat, it has its pros and cons but I don't think that validates that meat is the best source of getting our required protein and essential amino acids.
I may have missed your point, enlighten me if you will do so kindly.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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Eating a lot of meat makes some a larger and denser person.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: NateTheAnimator

I may have missed your point, enlighten me if you will do so kindly.
My point was that your statement was, at best, a statement of the obvious.


Yes other mammalian species eat a variety of meat, it has its pros and cons but I don't think that validates that meat is the best source of getting our required protein and essential amino acids.
Well, that would be a judgement call, wouldn't it? As far as "best" goes. But do you deny that meat carries the most readily available proteins (and fats for that matter)?



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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It takes 48 hours or more for meat to digest. Putrefaction all in ya. Why can't the body break down these proteins easier? Why must these cooked foods cause leaky gut, irritable bowel syndrome, auto immune disorders? We evolved from drawing in caves as well, so should we still? We know now what meat does to the body. We know it causes cancers, tumors, etc. We also know what living foods do to the body as well. Yet you still think we should do what we evolved from? Survival tactics? No, Evolve further! Try it yourself and see. I was a classic chef cooking chicken, veal, pork and any other carcass I could get my knife on. Suffered health issues my entire life using Dr prescribed nonsense. Learned what I was doing was not the way. Began detoxing with herbs and fruits. My health is at its peak now. I mentally, physically, spiritually know the difference. We have the technology now to build massive greenhouses to grow anything, anywhere, in abundance. We have the intelligence to support these Earth vessels with energetic foods that serve our highest good. We have been brain washed by a programmed society that says we need meat. You seem like a smart fellow, it doesn't make sense how you haven't figured this whole diet/lifestyle thing out yet. Reach higher, you're probably a genius hiding behind poor eating habits. The hippie vibe side comment was sarcasm. On a high fruit diet you chemically can't help but to turn into somewhat of a hippy, vibrationally.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: NautPsycho

It takes 48 hours or more for meat to digest. Putrefaction all in ya.
Source? But no, digestion is not "putrification".


Why must these cooked foods cause leaky gut, irritable bowel syndrome, auto immune disorders?
Is it cooked foods which cause that? Or a host of bad habits and environmental factors?


We evolved from drawing in caves as well, so should we still?
Actually, we have not changed much from those who drew on cave walls. We have technology and agriculture, but that's about it.


No, Evolve further!
Ok. *grunt* *groan*. Dang. No luck. Individuals do not evolve biologically.


On a high fruit diet you chemically can't help but to turn into somewhat of a hippy, vibrationally.
I prefer to not vibrate, thank you.
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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:38 PM
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my, my. this thread has deteriorated to literal grunting.
must be all the meat you guys are eating.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: dashen

Just trying to evolve.
Just trying my best to evolve.

Wait. Let me try something else....

*auoommmmmm* *auoommmmmm*
Om mani padme Om

Nope. Dang.

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Phage

you gotta mutate mate.
or GMO and whatnot



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Phage
Meat begins to putrefy in the gut as it sits there slowly digesting. You want me to source you like Google doesn't exist? Since we have technology and agriculture that means we can use these tools to...further evolve. People are biologically devolving right now if you've been outside and taken a look. Thanks to crappy diets and external influences as well. Eating poorly is a bad habit and bad for the environment as well. Of course there are other things in participation with eating animals that cause such havoc but it's what is being consumed on a daily basis that is the ultimate culprit. You prefer to sit still and think we can't evolve better instead of vibrating higher(not like an Xbox controller) but in terms of the quality of your energy. You can put diesel in your sonata or you can put 91. Or you can realize both are obsolete and put electricity in your living vehicle. I have a source for you though. "THE DETOX MIRACLE SOURCE BOOK BY DR ROBERT MORSE". Take a break from ATS and read that book. Then talk about us being omnivores and teeth designed to eat meat. Personal preference though, I don't spew this to shove my beliefs into your head on some ego shat. I say it because I Love you as someone who breathes just like me and I wish for everyone to feel as great as I have by switching my meat eating lifestyle up. Simple as that.
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posted on Nov, 16 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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My point was that your statement was, at best, a statement of the obvious.


Yes,that statement that you quoted was an oversimplification of my post for those to lazy or had trouble reading what was stated.



Well, that would be a judgement call, wouldn't it? As far as "best" goes. But do you deny that meat carries the most readily available proteins (and fats for that matter)?


I do not deny that, if anything if you read one of my previous responses to you I made it quite clear that meat is one of the easiest mediums for us animals to get our proteins from. My point is simply that we should cut meat out as our main source of proteins and vital nutrients. I'm not saying we should abstain from eating all meat as it has as you mentioned some advantages in the survival of our species and others as well.

I think in our early development eating meat had it's advantages for our ancestors and I think it's time to grow up by slowly moving away from that diet as it would be beneficial to the health of our species. I mean a calf doesn't stick to only drinking it's mothers milk for the rest of it's life, it has to find other sources of sustenance to substitute for the absence of its mother.




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posted on Nov, 16 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: NautPsycho

I love you too man.
Peace out.




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