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UK Special Forces Deployed to UK streets in responce to Paris.

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posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: sg1642

They do in fact put police snipers on top of buildings. Normally during events but im guessing in high alert situations to.




posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So, if 450 nut jobs have returned from ISIS-land - why are these not detained and used as a fertilizer for sea weed?

I seem to completely miss what is the legal basis why EU - and UK - allow known terrorists to enter - and I guess ISIS membership can be counted as joining a terrorist organisation - Why are they not detained atleast now?


So they can track who those 450 go back to and talk to in the UK so the security services know who else to watch.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Fair enough. But, when talking is done - then they for sure get the bullet, ok?



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: sg1642

They do in fact put police snipers on top of buildings. Normally during events but im guessing in high alert situations to.
police snipers yes definitely.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Another interesting development but given the threat level remains at Sevrer and has not been raised to Critical would suggest this is just a precaution.


Threat levels are pretty superfluous now anyway. Paris had bomb alerts on the day of the shooting, and look what happened that night. These things come at any time, and people need to be on the alert all the time on the streets.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Another interesting development but given the threat level remains at Sevrer and has not been raised to Critical would suggest this is just a precaution.


Threat levels are pretty superfluous now anyway. Paris had bomb alerts on the day of the shooting, and look what happened that night. These things come at any time, and people need to be on the alert all the time on the streets.


In the UK they do actually work and are really quite practical when it comes to counter-terrorism the next level up would be critical which means there is clear intelligence pointing to a imitate threat to life and when that happens more police are deployed, military are put on higher alert, more security at transportation hubs and so on.

They are also useful to those of us who are interested an like to analyse this stuff, but not raising the threat level then it means that the UK do not have any intelligence that we also face a imitate threat.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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This report is old news.. SF have been on the ground since the threat level was raised


No its not!

The threat level was last raised by JTAC in 2012 this report is about the specific response of UKSF in the aftermath of attacks in France.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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I can't believe I'm reading this.

The SAS are now on the streets of London?? As a precautionary measure?!...Hmm... seems like a pretty big precaution to involve the SAS?

I think it's safe to say they know something and don't want panic to break out.


CX

posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: socketdude
I can't believe I'm reading this.

The SAS are now on the streets of London?? As a precautionary measure?!...Hmm... seems like a pretty big precaution to involve the SAS?

I think it's safe to say they know something and don't want panic to break out.


I wouldn't get too excited, they make it sound like hairy men in black gear will be walking around the street, as with any event of specialist forces or agencies being deployed, you won't be aware of them most likely.

To be honest, I wish the papers would shut up about things like this.

CX.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Currently the UK's Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) have not yet increased the UK threat level however following meeting of COBRA in response to the attacks in France there are now multiple reports that under the authority of SO15 (metropolitan police counter terrorism command) members of the SAS and SRR have been deployed to assist police.

Simply window dressing to make the ignorant feel safer.

There is absolutely NOTHING anyone can do if someone is determined enough to hit a soft target unless they are already under surveillance.

So the only thing that will protect us is clever intelligence. Not the dumb stuff they are just introducing. Only dumb people talk openly on the internet and write unecrypted emails with the subject line "Here are the plans to blow up westminster on the 10th November at 17:55" !!!!!!!!!



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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They're highly trained observers and due to the nature of the job are able to be moved around very quickly so assuming theres a few SAS teams back over here for perhaps training/rest etc they could be assisting the police within an hour or two max as i remember a friend who's son was in the SBS saying that unless they're specifically off-duty they have to be able to roll back to the base in about 30-40 mins.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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There is absolutely NOTHING anyone can do if someone is determined enough to hit a soft target unless they are already under surveillance.


I agree 100%

Events in Paris demonstrate your point perfectly they had increased security yet this still happened.

However the deployment of UKSF does provide a deterrent, that's all this really is.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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. . . they have to be able to roll back to the base in about 30-40 mins.



This is what gives them away. As a Hereford busker I came to recognise the look of 'I may be called back to base at any moment for a task I may not return from'. Though I didn't realise that's what the look meant until it was mentioned here on ATS.

For added security effort should be made to look less serious.
edit on 15 11 2015 by Kester because: condense



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Maxatoria
a reply to: socketdude

They're highly trained observers and due to the nature of the job are able to be moved around very quickly so assuming theres a few SAS teams back over here for perhaps training/rest etc they could be assisting the police within an hour or two max as i remember a friend who's son was in the SBS saying that unless they're specifically off-duty they have to be able to roll back to the base in about 30-40 mins.



There is always a squadron in the UK in the CRW role. And they'll be itching for something to kick off I'd imagine. At times like this if there is reasonable intelligence pointing towards an attack then they will be on high readiness and be half way to the incident(s) in 30-40 mins.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Tyrion79

originally posted by: Revolution9
I'm kind of glad about this because the government has a responsibility to protect the people at such times. I am critical of Paris authorities for being blind to the obvious after Charlie and all that. I don't think they will make the same mistake again.

It's naive to think that putting military on the streets can avoid attacks like we've seen in Paris.
Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to stop people from initiating driveby shootings or blowing themselves up.
That's the harsh reality we face today.
Only solution in my opinion is to try and stop people from radicalising, before they decide to engage in terrorist acts.


It's the uncertainty factor. If you have mobile military units as well as police units doing road patrols by car, that reduces the response time to a few minutes. If the terrorists drive by in a car, there's a good chance they will get and behave nervously.

I agree, however do we really want to get used to military or specialized police patrolling our streets and neighbourhoods?
Besides, even with faster response time, alot of damage can be done in a very short timespan anyway.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to stop people from initiating driveby shootings or blowing themselves up.


This attitude is a recurring theme with you. Maybe then, everyone should throw their hands up in surrender, and let the Refugees/immigrants and terrorists have Europe.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll
Seeing how easy it is to get a hold of weapons these days, anyone could become a terrorist.
I'm not suggesting to surrender to anything, however I don't think that by turning our society more into a police state other than it already is today, will increase any real safety or avoid attacks like in Paris.
It will only further decrease our personal freedom and privacy.
If you're so afraid, then why don't you sell your home and move to a prison cell instead. Lots of surveillance and safety there.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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If you're so afraid, then why don't you sell your home and move to a prison cell instead. Lots of surveillance and safety there.


Absolutely asinine response. Actually I'm not afraid. Concerned, yes. Perhaps you should take your own advice as you seem to be a defeatist - bear in mind when you write these kinds of things that most of us aren't.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: socketdude
I can't believe I'm reading this.

The SAS are now on the streets of London?? As a precautionary measure?!...Hmm... seems like a pretty big precaution to involve the SAS?

I think it's safe to say they know something and don't want panic to break out.


Not sure this has anything to do with it, but I read on one of those ISIS twitter feeds (someone posted) that when they claimed the Paris bombings they said London was next and to be careful of public transportation.

Fear tactics? True? Who knows.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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So by going against the mainstream thought of preventing terrorist attacks with more government surveillance and legislation makes me a defeatist?
How about preventing radicalism in the first place, instead of only treating the symptoms.
I'm concerned as well, not only by radicalism, but also by governments implementing and enforcing oppressive legislation.



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