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originally posted by: CthulhuMythos
Wow, I didn't know these plans went that far back, and once again it seems oil is the driver. I am ashamed of our government.
Jacques de Molay (French: [də mɔlɛ]; c. 1243 – 18 March 1314), also spelt Molai, was the 23rd and last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, leading the Order from 20 April 1292 until it was dissolved by order of Pope Clement V in 1307. Though little is known of his actual life and deeds except for his last years as Grand Master, he is the best known Templar, along with the Order's founder and first Grand Master, Hugues de Payens (1070–1136). Jacques de Molay's goal as Grand Master was to reform the Order, and adjust it to the situation in the Holy Land during the waning days of the Crusades. As European support for the Crusades had dwindled, other forces were at work which sought to disband the Order and claim the wealth of the Templars as their own. King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Templars, had Molay and many other French Templars arrested in 1307 and tortured into making false confessions. When Molay later retracted his confession, Philip had him burned upon a scaffold on an island in the River Seine in front of Notre Dame de Paris, in March 1314.
originally posted by: flyandi
Another US bashing thread. So what that we were involved in a group about 60 years ago. The NAZI's destroyed half the world before that and are we still taking aim against Germany? No.
Drop it. The past is past. It was complete different conditions than today. We were in a cold war and numerous other wars.
What do you think it's going to happen? Modern Hippies - that's how I call you. Thinking the world is a flower field filled with Butterflies.
The evil that ISIS brings to the table today was not created by the US or any other power. ISIS's ideology, hate preaching and brainwashing are the sources of their evil. To their credit, they did that all by themselves!
I don't even believe that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Quatar are the main financier of this group. Sure there is money coming from them but so is from every other country. Their social marketing tactics are insane good (remember the principal of the Nazi's propaganda machine are still taught in Universities today because they were so darn good).They main money is from plundering and stealing, extortion and oil - yeah ISIS controls most of the Northern Syrian oil fields.
So no US, Russia, Europe needed for ISIS to flourish.
Death to ISIS!
originally posted by: neo96
57 Years Ago: U.S. and Britain Approved Use of Islamic Extremists to Topple Syrian Government
That is a load of garbage.
The civil war in Syria, whose Alawite regime Saudi Arabia's Sunny monarchy has long plotted against, and the prospect of a war with Shiite Iran over its reported drive to acquire nuclear weapons, preoccupy Riyadh while, Abdallah, Canute-like, strives to keep the democratic wave from breaking on its shores.
The Sunni,and the Shia have been plotting against each other when they split within Islam.
The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world, which led to the Battle of Siffin
The article in the op doesn't say anything, but spreading disinformation.