Rapidly Melting Glacier Will Raise Sea Levels 'For Decades To Come'

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Which poles, and which area of the poles? What thickness or lack their of in the surrounding areas just off land. Spread out, thin, and not making up for the loss best I can tell.

Someone didn't do their research.

Says the guy who obviously has no idea what I'm talking about , Google is easy

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So you got nothing. Good to know.

originally posted by: tanka418

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: tanka418

You know I did the math on page 1 correct?

Where?!!? All I see in your OP s you posting and accepting someone else's data. And, there is little to no indication about its true source! And, by source, I don't mean some scientist who is using second hand data (data he didn't collect)

There is more on the first page than just the OP you know? Maybe you should practice reading more of the thread than JUST the OP? That is unless you don't want to look ignorant on what has been discussed already.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And while 5 billion ton seems like a lot of water...it is, in reality, just over 1 cubic mile, or just enough "melt" to raise the ocean levels...what was that; 0.01inches per year...so that 18 inches Mr. Scientist reports will only take the next 1800 years to accumulate... I seriously believe that the weather is a bit more dynamic than that!

5 billion ton...is about 1/350, 000, 000 of the total of all water on Earth...

Y'all need to sort out and get a grip on your magnitudes.

We aren't talking about flooding the earth here. We are talking about the sea levels rising a little bit each year due to glaciers like the one in Greenland melting. Greenland's glacier isn't the only one that is melting.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Dooooom! Doooooom!

We keep hearing this stuff and much like end times prophecy , the dates and "thresholds" come and go , and nothing happens

It's the equivalent of bible thumping end time prophecy

No wonder people compare militant climate change to religion

The only people who don't see Climate Change happening here and now as well as all the models coming true are the people with their heads in the sand. UNLIKE bible prophecy, this stuff isn't supposed to happen all at once. It is a gradual process that is hard to notice unless you are watching carefully. But it IS something you'll notice one day when you notice drastically different weather patterns in the place you live in that you aren't used to. Heck, you are probably already experiencing that anyways.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh I believe that there's climate change

But I don't buy into the doom so much

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Why? What evidence do you have to present to counter Global Warming? What information have you reviewed that has told you that it is a lie and why is it more reliable than the scientists that say otherwise?

Your gut instinct or your personal story about the place you live at isn't good enough. I only care about objective evidence.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: soficrow

And yet polar ice caps are gaining ice.....

Polar ice caps are losing ice overall.

Feb. 10, 2015

NASA Study Shows Global Sea Ice Diminishing, Despite Antarctic Gains

Sea ice increases in Antarctica do not make up for the accelerated Arctic sea ice loss of the last decades, a new NASA study finds. As a whole, the planet has been shedding sea ice at an average annual rate of 13,500 square miles (35,000 square kilometers) since 1979, the equivalent of losing an area of sea ice larger than the state of Maryland every year.

Just saying not buying the doom porn

They always claim huge cataclysms and they are always wrong

It may be melting, let's see just how high it really raises the oceans

Not doom porn. Island nations already are hard hit and people are losing their homes. We're already facing a climate change refugee crisis and it will get worse. The spin does play on doom porn - "it could be you next" - but fact is, we're in this together. Or is that your point? You don't / won't care until you're affected personally?

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Would the trend change?
Would it be less than 2.9 mm/yr or more than 3.7 mm/yr?

There is Nothing to see here, Global Warming CAN'T be real!!!!

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Sunwolf

How in blazes do they measure that,what with tides,currents,coriolis forces?

In the case of the data being discussed, satellite based radar. That data correlates well with tide station data.

Nope can`t believe it.

Ok. I think the residents of Kiribati might have a different point of view.

Land rises and sinks with regularity.place where I live has sunk something like 12 ft. in a hundred years.How can you be sure that is not happening in kiribati?
No,I don`t believe radar is that accurate.

No worries at all, we can fix the planet by implementing a Carbon Pricing Scheme.
The more we pay, the more we pay. Agenda 21 is in full swing.
They intend to make the West as poor as everyone else.
And the climate will do what it does naturally, continue to change despite us.

a reply to: Sunwolf

Land rises and sinks with regularity.place where I live has sunk something like 12 ft. in a hundred years.

Yes, yes it does. And that complicates things somewhat. There are explanations why such land subsidence occurs. But it's sort of hard to see how so many places could be subsiding at once.
tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov...

No,I don`t believe radar is that accurate.

Ok. Your privilege. Just as it is your privilege to not believe sea levels are rising.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
We aren't talking about flooding the earth here. We are talking about the sea levels rising a little bit each year due to glaciers like the one in Greenland melting. Greenland's glacier isn't the only one that is melting.

Yes, I know, apparently better than you...again...the estimate of sea level rise due to ice melt is all of 0.27mm/year, that is all of 1/100th of an inch (0.010")...to get your 18 inches will take 1800 years...

Which fundamentally means that even after we factor all other reasons for sea level rise...it won't become noticeable for at least another several decades, won't become an issue for hundreds f years. And, the whole 1800 year saga will never play out.

The sea level rise we are experiencing is nothing compared to similar events in history...the end of the last great ice age comes to mind. If we look at the past 1800 years; how much change has there been?

Please understand; I'm not denying any of these events; the warming of the planet, the rising sea levels,...but, I do question, vehemently, the degree of alarm!, and several of the conclusions reached by the panicking masses. And by that I mean that this warming trend is a natural phenomena.

Why must you live in denial? It is already causing problems. Very few are panicking like you claim.

originally posted by: soficrow

Erm. It's happening.

From the International business Times:

Even Fiji has been forced to move its own citizens from low-lying areas. The cost of relocating three villages was about $2 million. But with an estimated 45 other communities likely to need resettling in the next 10 years, the government doesn’t have sufficient funds to continue such making such moves, the South Pacific island nation recently warned.

...The Maldives has constructed an artificial island and created a sovereign wealth fund that could be used to buy land elsewhere.

In contrast, Tuvalu, with a population of a little more than 10,000, has left the decision about whether to migrate to its citizens, with some of them taking advantage of an agreement with New Zealand that allows 75 people to emigrate there every year. ...

...In addition to increasing sea levels, islands in the Pacific and Indian oceans are now faced with a lack of arable land because of the salination of soil. Big cyclones and typhoons have also wreaked havoc in recent years.

...“The big question: Who, then, is responsible for the people and for the small island states that are most severely affected?” asked Kathleen Newland, a co-founder and senior fellow at the Migration Policy Institute, a think tank based in Washington. “Relocation seems to be the only possibility.”

Now is the time to discuss coordination and plan for what could be the next refugee crisis, said Simati, the Tuvalu permanent representative to the U.N. who has already witnessed small islets disappearing in his native country. He hopes global leaders will commit to an ambitious target in Paris.

a reply to: Phage

No your right - decreasing each individual data point by 4 doesn't significantly change the trend line

Can you show me where the +/- 4 mm is for the trend line and not the data

Do you really think sampling 3 locations every 10 days is a meaning ful sample for the entire oceans of the world?

How does the satellite determine if the increase in a data point to due to water instead of sedimentaion?

Tired of Control Freaks

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Can you show me where the +/- 4 mm is for the trend line and not the data

Yes. The trendline shows an average rate of 3.3 mm/yr ± .4mm.

Do you really think sampling 3 locations every 10 days is a meaning ful sample for the entire oceans of the world?

Three locations? Oh I see, you are confused because three different satellites have been used. No. The data does not represent three locations, it represents global averages. Which is what the quote you couldn't quote says.

How does the satellite determine if the increase in a data point to due to water instead of sedimentaion?

The satellite does not measure the depth of the water. It measures the distance between the satellite and the surface of the ocean. The surface of the ocean(s) are getting higher. That is what this is about.

why dont I buy into the doom? Because repeatedly they have said for YEARS now, given us utlimatems and time lines about Oceans rising, The world Freezing, then changed to Burning up, etc etc etc

And every time, the day and time passes without incident.......

Thats why I dont buy into it

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
why dont I buy into the doom? Because repeatedly they have said for YEARS now, given us utlimatems and time lines about Oceans rising, The world Freezing, then changed to Burning up, etc etc etc

And every time, the day and time passes without incident.......

Thats why I dont buy into it

They never said the world was freezing though. That was a really small group and some media articles and some science fiction stories. The Ocean's will rise, we just haven't seen enough melt yet. These things don't happen in an instant.

a reply to: amazing

It should be noted that melting glacial ice is not the only cause of rising sea levels. Thermal expansion accounts for about half of the rise seen in the 20th century. As time goes on, and the oceans continue to warm, it will continue to make significant contribution. But, as time goes on, the accelerating loss of glacial ice will have a greater and greater impact.

Of particular concern though, is not so much the melting of ice, as it is the introduction of glacial Antarctic ice into the ocean. Warmer seas undercut the ice shelves which help to hold the glaciers in place. As those shelves degrade it facilitates the slide of the glaciers into the ocean. Dropping thousands of acres of "ice cubes" in a glass is sure to accelerate things.

a reply to: Phage
It should also be noted that as the temperature rises so do evaporation rates.

Ice currently in glacial form is not subject to the cycles the same as sea water is.

All the doom scienceer threads always have an agenda and truth is not one of them.

This is definitely prediction and not reality.