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Please give one example where love involves selflessness, not matter how destructive that relationship may be.
originally posted by: eluryh22
originally posted by: laminatedsoul
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: laminatedsoul
Begging shows a lack of Faith/Trust, but prayer is not the same as begging. Prayer can be an expression of Love and Gratitude.
Anyone who says god in their prayers.
sorry if you feel that involves you. to me, it does. god is a figment.
a mental malady. religion is a story to chain .. those who believe.
we don't pray for things we have. We give thanks for things we have. We pray for things we need. If god cannot already know these things, he is not all knowing, all seeing. And if he does know, yet waits for us to ask, he is waiting for us to beg.
A god who would let you suffer until you begged for his mercy, is no good I'd want looking over me.
Can you please define "We"...?
I'm hoping that you are not so presumptuous as to speak for me, for what I pray for, for what I perceive I need and what I want.
Is faith in love equal to faith in God?
Is faith necessary to understand love? Is love necessary to understand faith?
Faith = Belief/Trust.
Not all faith/beliefs are about Love.
What is the difference between an athiest's love and theological love?
The understanding of it. A theist who believes God is Love will know that it is The Great Spiritual Force of Life, while an atheist may not understand it to that degree - but Love is Love whether it's the one who love is Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, or Atheist.
Is God's love defined differently to man's?
God is Love.
Human beings may be Loving, but God is Pure Love.
God = 100% Love (Pure)
Humans may have a darker side and not be 100%.
It is described biblically as being quite harsh and judgemental, and quite human.
"Biblically"? There's a lot of books in the canon of the bible with differing opinions. For example, this verse is of The Bible and says differently than what some other verses says in the old testament books:
"Luke 6:35-36King James Version (KJV)
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful."
Organised religion is responsible for some of the most heinous crimes against humanity, throughout history and here the 21st century, carried out in the name of "love". Is this God's will?
God's Will is not violence and suffering, but Love, because God is Love.
Love does no harm to its neighbour. Love is Life.
a reply to: Lucid Lunacy
I don't believe in religion, either. It can be helpful to some people, but God is beyond religion. God is Love and Love goes beyond race, gender, and religion.
Sort of reminds me of a light-hearted conversation I had with a Deacon many moons ago...
He said, "Next time you find yourself having to do something that you find unpleasant.... remember that it is for and of God."