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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: randyvs
Oh what are you gonna do Einstien put every illegal immigrant into
the court system? Instead of court appointed field justices that can
assertain guilt immediately. On a bus gone!
You have to know by now that I am a pretty fierce opponent of illegal immigration. That said:
Have you considered the idea that maybe there isn't really anything we CAN do about them legally? I think, in this case, we should focus our energy into deporting the real criminals, and providing a set of standards for the rest to remain.
We don't abandon the Constitution, or pick it apart like a menu because we find due process inconvenient. You either do it the right way, or you find other means to alleviate the situation, but you do not advocate for abrogating the rights of the people. NO MATTER WHO THOSE PEOPLE MAY BE.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: queenofswords
There is an agenda going on at an organizational level and on a global level. Why? Who is behind it? The UN?
It's the corporate Oligarchy that profits from cheap labor. It's the Capitalist essentially keeping profit and money in circulation...The bankers.
How are you going to address that power?
Trump is full of BS and he knows it. In fact he is part of the problem...how many illegals work in his casinos and other business ventures? plenty...
I'll believe him when he fires and deports his own hired help.
I wish they would just nominate Jeb.
Pretending someone else might get the nomination is getting tiring.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated
I hope you know that doing this would likely destroy what little remains of our agricultural base in the country.
Destroy it how? There are plenty of people who will do the work who are here legally. If the illegal immigrants still want to do the work, they can apply to come here legally to do so.
After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia...
Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars' worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they've done to Georgia's largest industry....
The results of that investigation have now been released. According to survey of 230 Georgia farmers conducted by Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, farmers expect to need more than 11,000 workers at some point over the rest of the season, a number that probably underestimates the real need, since not every farmer in the state responded to the survey.
All of this is to say if you're going to stop illegal immigrants from doing a job you should be prepared for the job, and perhaps even the business itself, to go away. You may think this is worth it, but you should at least be acknowledging the risks and weigh them against what, if anything, you think is being gained.
I find it odd that you progressives love to talk about minimum wage, etc but then at the same time support bringing in low skilled immigrants which puts even further pressure on wages for these menial jobs. Which one is it? If you choke off the supply of this cheap labor, the agriculture business will then need to raise wages to attract legal workers.
If someone wants to immigrate to America, I am all for it. However, we have a legal immigration system that is already setup. Is it perfect? No. However, we cannot just have open borders for all. We simply cannot afford it and it isn't secure.
You stop it by punishing those who employ them, or in the event of repeat offenders, yanking their business license & shutting them down permanently
originally posted by: Bennyzilla
a reply to: Nyiah
I can agree that those hiring illegals are also a problem, but I can't understand why you put no blame on the people who are breaking the law and coming here illegally to take those jobs.
If I have illicit drugs and I offer them to people for free, those who take them are not free of any guilt. I am guilty and so are they and both deserve to be handled within the law.
It feels like some really want to deflect ALL the blame on those doing the hiring and treat those here illegally as victims.
originally posted by: crazyewok
Man I can just imagine it now.
In typical American Alphabet agency soup fashion.
Once your CIA,NSA,FBI,ATF, Local PD, DEA,TSA ect take the "cream" of your crop what brain dead vegetable will be left to fill the roles of this new agency?
Trump Immigration : "duhhhhh I'm Officer Immigration! derp derp I erm here to take you Mexicans back home derp derp."
Mexicans: " Senor why are you driving us north"
Trump Immigration "duhhhh cause Mexicans are from Canada derp derp"
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Bennyzilla
I never said scoop people up, put them on trains and send them back. That must be something you picked up from somewhere else.
NOBODY has said this. This what the far left wing propaganda is saying.