The Moon Phobos is Slowly Falling Apart and Triton

a reply to: trifecta

Jailbreaaaak!!!

a reply to: rajas

A question from a simple man.

If we inhabit Mars and somehow an atmosphere is created, then the supposed possible oceans thawed on Mars, how would the tides work if any, and also the moons not being Tidal ( locked, face to earth), how would it all work ?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: rajas

Considering Phobos is in a retrograde orbit...

I would like to see a scientific explanation for that.

Gravity, always gravity

a reply to: scubagravy

No idea, but im sure another person could answer that =)

Hm. Isn't it funny how Hoagland 'predicted' a while ago that Phobos was hollow and the grooves were structural failings. He also said it was a space station of some sorts, but that's another story.

originally posted by: NowanKenubi
Hm. Isn't it funny how Hoagland 'predicted' a while ago that Phobos was hollow and the grooves were structural failings. He also said it was a space station of some sorts, but that's another story.

Most planets are hollow. There's a miniature "Sun" at every center as stated in my previous post. That's the only way a body as big as a planet or moon can generated a Magnetic field.

a reply to: rajas

It was a good question i thought, my questions go un-noticed usually,

POSSIBLY JUST A BLOODY GOOD QUESTION TOO

a reply to: scubagravy

It would have tides, but a lot lower than the ones we have here on Earth.

The Sun itself helps provide the tides, so that even if our moon were to suddenly go away, we would still have tides. Just no where near as high as we do now.

a reply to: eriktheawful

Thankyou very much for your reply, that makes sense. Although i believe it would change life on earth greatly, even our man made calendar would be wonky and possibly not needed in the way we use it today. The Zodiac for the believers might also be different, the precession of 26000 would not exist and the tilt of axis would be also different causing a shift in seasons i bet.
I guess what im saying is i hope our moon stays put, and does not get hit by some stray rock in our lifetime.

Imagine there were no seasons at all how we know it that rotate throughout the year, rather the seasons are depicted by what lattitude you live.

a reply to: scubagravy

If Earth had no Moon conditions through its entire evolution would have been quite different. And, as a result, the evolution of life would have proceeded in quite different paths. Had that been the case, we would not be us but we could be something else. Just as smart or maybe even smarter. Or not.

originally posted by: rajas

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: rajas

Considering Phobos is in a retrograde orbit...

I would like to see a scientific explanation for that.

Gravity, always gravity

Sure but look at its orbit. Its circular and its orbital decay is way low. To me its weird a satellite that is naturally captured would be in its current position. It is also weird to have a retrograde orbit for a naturally occurring satellite.

Kind of weird when neither theory adds up given the facts.

a reply to: Xcathdra

It is also weird to have a retrograde orbit for a naturally occurring satellite.

Can you explain what you mean by retrograde orbit, how it applies to Phobos, and why you consider it weird?

a reply to: Phage

So you concur ? at least slightly

a reply to: Phage

Phobos rises in the west and sets in the east, which runs counter to the spin of mars.

Venus (retrograde or reverse spin) and Uranus have goofy orbits. Mars does not yet phobos does. Its not heard of where a natural satellite has a reverse orbit than the planet it orbits. Its even "more weird" for a captured satellite to have the orbit that phobos has.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Phobos rises in the west and sets in the east

Oh, you meant apparent retrograde. That is because it's orbital rate is faster than the rotational rate of Mars.
That would be because of its orbital radius. A lower orbit means a faster orbit (because of gravity). But it does not revolve opposite to Mar's rotation.

Its not heard of where a natural satellite has a reverse orbit than the planet it orbits.

Phobos doesn't revolve opposite Mars' rotation. But Triton does orbit opposite the rotation of Neptune. Is Triton a spaceship?

a reply to: Phage

My mistake on Phobos.

Triton is the only large satellite with that type of orbit.

I said nothing about spaceships.

Any reason you have to act like an ass?

a reply to: Xcathdra

I said nothing about spaceships.

My mistake. You talked about no "natural satellites" displaying retrograde orbits. That would imply an artificial satellite, which might be considered a spaceship by some.

Any reason you have to act like an ass?

Not really.

originally posted by: Phage

Any reason you have to act like an ass?

Not really.

Then why do you when people make mistakes or ask questions?

The goal is to learn and educate.

a reply to: Xcathdra
Did you learn something?
I started by asking you questions. Did I not?
www.criticalthinking.org...

a reply to: Phage

you did neither... you acted like an ass plain and simple. Then did it again with the link.

naturally occurring = satellite formed with the planet.
non naturally occurring = captured by gravity.

Might have picked up on that if you weren't busy acting the way you did.