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A question for critics of Socialism

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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:27 PM
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Do you think our views are incompatible? Interesting

Funny - how people interpret the Constitution. Not too different from how they interpret the Bible

And they were raised in the simple concept that we should do unto others as we want to be treated.

That's not just basic humanity, it's christian philosophy.

You're exactly right - not just. It's also Christian. And don't you forget it


posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:39 AM
a reply to: Gumerk

What do you mean by "front liners." And what would be your response to critics that say "CEO's work hard to get where they are...they arent all wall street criminals. A person works hard for what they earn and should be up to them how they spend it. Its raising a tax with FALSE REPRESENTATION!! Its government taking more than they already do." Thank You.

I like to use the big hotel chains as an example (having had experience as a supervisor for the housekeeping department) --

if every housekeeper called in sick, the place would have to shut down.
Those housekeepers bust their butts, toe the line, do the menial labor - if they weren't there, who would clean those 720 rooms in time for the full-house turnover of guests?

Like when one convention leaves and another is checking in the same day.....
the hotel would have to lock its doors.

The CEO sits in a distant city micro-managing spread sheets, and pays no attention to the situation of the housekeepers -
that CEO does NOT deserve 500x more money than the housekeepers.

Does that answer your question?
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that the employees don't get to be "stake-holders". They won't get a "bonus" at the end of the year for their fast, thorough WORK. But the "shareholders" expect a dividend.

Front-liners - the people who deal with the public, do the day to day grind, show up for their shifts, and keep things running smoothly.

CEOs - suits who sit far away counting beans. If the CEO dropped dead of a morning, the hotel would continue to operate JUST FINE. If the housekeepers were all suddenly gone, the hotel would come to a screeching halt.

Get it?

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:46 AM
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Well I'm confident you took the pay difference from your "supervisor" salary and re-distributed money back to the housekeepers right?

Setting real examples is always healthy.

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:47 AM
a reply to: xuenchen

Just stop. You know exactly what I mean.

My salary was less than $25,000 a year. The CEO's was probably 2.5 million.

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:51 AM
a reply to: Teikiatsu


No more assets stashed in foreign countries.
No more loopholes and escapes.
The corporations pay their fair share of taxes, or their assets are SEIZED - just like Iran's "assets" were frozen under sanctions.

Give me a break.

It's not rocket science....

And once that simple issue is tackled, Campaign Finance Reform would happen - an end to "Lobbying" and "special interests" bribing their representatives.

Perhaps that's too complicated for you to understand, though. Could very well be.

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 06:14 PM
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Great explanation, and thank you.

Sounds like this is exactly what Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socialism vows to address, huge and bizarre income inequality.

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:50 PM
a reply to: Gumerk

Exactly. Thank you for listening/reading.

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