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a reply to: StargateSG7

One other response i received was to try
Highly metalized uniform ceramics, some
Of which are a lot cheaper than silicon
Wafers. I.e. Alumina-based or Copper Oxide
ceramics with high thermal stability and
Excellent mechanical strength, high
Electrical permissivity!

a reply to: StargateSG7

Those aren't semiconductors either. Silicon, germanium, GaAs, a very few other materials will do. A reason these materials are so pricey is that they are unbelievably pure and the crystal lattices are nearly perfect. As you go away from that the performance drops, or it becomes unusable.

I don't think they're going to have dirt cheap pure mono crystalline boules any time soon.

a reply to: StargateSG7

How are you going to do your original idea of multi-layer connectivity with those substrates? they are rather non-transparent.

Interresting read anyway.
Can't we grow single-crystal diamond by chemical vapor deposition? In combination with 3D printers the Stargate crystal technology seems less unreal IMHO. And I used to think it's a bit too arcade sci-fi.

originally posted by: Pirvonen
a reply to: StargateSG7

How are you going to do your original idea of multi-layer connectivity with those substrates? they are rather non-transparent.

It actually changes nothing on that idea since
My original post was to use the polycarbonate
Used in DVD/BluRay production as a supporting
Structure only where glass masters stamp holding
Wells and notched pathways between holding wells which carry or hold up a "real" semiconductor embedded at the factory
which can act as the P-N junction
Which be then be connected in series to form transistors and logic circuits. A laser can then
Be directed by software to "break a fuse" which
Removes a pre-built connection between each junction or keep any given connection intact
By NOT using the laser to break the connection.

The polycarbonate is basically used only as a
Cheap Supporting backboard holding a semiconductor in place and IS NOT USED
As the actual transistor material itself.

This does raise the issue of cost since the transistor semiconductors would have to be
Grown and doped on a rather large scale in
order to Bring costs down to two dollars a disc.
To get highly purified silicon and dope it requires
Expensive clean room technology.

...BUT...as Bedlam has pointed out, organic
Transistors ARE out there (creatable out of
non-thermoplastics --- i.e. soft plastic) and
Are CHEAP ENOUGH that they could be doped
And embedded or stamped into a polycarbonate
Stamped Holding well.

AND depending upon what type of plastic is used
As the organic transistor, thermal stability and a high enough absolute switching speed of any
Given Organic transistor may support
Gigahertz+ speeds.


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The suggestion to use Alumina or Copper Oxide
Requires them to be supercooled to become
Conductive since those materials can become
Superconductors at extremely low temperatures.
Having bottles of Liquid Helium or Liquid Nitrogen
Might become rather problematic and COSTLY
in a home setup.....UNLESS...the specific formulation of the Copper Oxide or Alumina Ceramic compound is a ROOM TEMPERATURE
SUPERCONDUCTOR....THEN all bets are off and
REALLY CHEAP TERAHERTZ SCALE (1000 GHZ)
supercomputing becomes the new
possibility........!!!!!!

These ARE DEFINITELY exciting times we live in.....

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
Interresting read anyway.

Can't we grow single-crystal diamond by chemical vapor deposition? In combination with 3D printers the Stargate crystal technology seems less unreal IMHO. And I used to think it's a bit too arcade sci-fi.

There was a Wired Magazine article more than
Ten years old which researched just that sort
Of application but vapor deposition for diamond
Substrate is a fully patented process held by
A Florida company who is using it to make
Synthetic Jewelry-quality clear and coloured
Diamonds.

They didn't seem interesting in licensing
Their technology for Silicon-on-Diamond
Substrate manufacturing which is one reason
Why such a thermally conductive substrate isn't
Being used in making 50 GHZ+ Intel i7 cpus!

They're being greedy by being beholden to
The deBeers diamond cartel rather than
Selling out to Intel who could actually
Make something out of the technology!

a reply to: StargateSG7

Do they have it patented worldwide forever so I will never be able to buy a crystal processor into my Ha'tak?
What about other crystals like Quartz, Zircon and printing some kind of solid 3D architecture between layers?

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
a reply to: StargateSG7

Do they have it patented worldwide forever so I will never be able to buy crystal processor into my Ha'tak?

What about other crystals like Quartz, Zircon and printing some kind of solid 3D architecture between layers?

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Interestingly, the patent I am thinking is is PRECEDED BY this 1994 patent:

Physical vapor deposition of diamond-like carbon films

US 5605759 A

by Robert Prince, Elisa Bourdon

Abstract
A process for forming diamond like films of carbon on substrates at room temperature using physical vapour deposition. A source of carbon is physically ablated in the vicintity of a substrate to deposit on the substrate all forms of carbon. A physical discrimination process is applied continuously to remove graphite grains while leaving the aliphatic diamond form intact. The source of carbon is typically a high purity carbon rod. The substrate is typically metal or glass placed within about 60 centimeters where laser pulse energy of 50 millijoules peak power is used. Physical ablation is carried out by ion beam, arc or laser ablation. The resulting carbon plume impinges on the substrate and is thermally quenched. Physical discrimination between carbon forms is by using a laser having a wavelength which is absorbed by graphitic forms but which passes through the aliphatic forms without absorption thereby allowing thermal quenching of the diamond like aliphatic forms. Laser power is adjusted such that the optical removal rate of graphitic forms exceeds the arrival rate. Two laser beams are utilized either by two lasers or by one by suitable optical imaging. Multiple physical configurations exist to use either one or two lasers.


www.google.com...

which expired last year so we are COMPLETELY FREE
to use lasers to vaporize carbon and deposit onto
glass to make a diamond-like film which can then
hold high-speed silicon circuits and be able to
to be cooled by the fast heat-wicking abilities
of diamond substrates.


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Companies like deBeers (a giant diamond cartel and mining company)
HATE this type of technology because vapor deposition can grow
PERFECT DIAMONDS which mean high quality diamond jewelry can be
made on-the-cheap so they have invented techniques to DETECT
lab grown diamonds.

Detection of chemical vapor deposition grown diamond

US 8514377 B2

Inventors Robert C. Linares, Patrick J. Doering
Original Assignee SCIO Diamond Technology Corporation

Abstract

Diamonds may be identified as grown by the use of chemical vapor deposition.
One or more diamonds may be placed on a surface and exposed to short wavelength
light. Diamonds that fluoresce red may be identified as grown by the use of chemical
vapor deposition. In some embodiments, the diamonds are cooled prior to exposure
to the short wavelength light.

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I also found these almost-expired patents for making thermally conductive
diamond substrates which can make for REALLY FAST CPU/GPU/DSP chips!

Chemical vapor deposition method and apparatus for highly textured diamond film formation

Jai-Young Lee, Yoon-Kee Kim, Yoon-Jung Yong, Young-Soo Han
Original Assignee Korea Advanced Institute Of Science And Technology

US 6110541 A

Abstract
The present invention relates to a CVD apparatus for highly textured diamond film formation and a method for forming a highly textured diamond film on the surface of a silicone substrate by generating a high density plasma so that each diamond film grain can have the same orientation as the substrate. The present inventors developed an improved chemical vapor deposition apparatus and a method for highly textured diamond film formation, on the ground that the nucleation density having a heteroepitaxy relation with a silicone substrate can be increased by modifying the substrate support and by generating a high density plasma right on the substrate while subjecting the whole substrate to the plasma. In accordance with the present invention, a diamond film which is close to a single crystal and has a heteroepitaxy relation with the crystalline orientation of a substrate can be formed in a simple manner.

www.google.com...

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THIS is the company and patent I am thinking to grow MONO-CRYSTALLINE diamonds
GOOD ENOUGH for making really perfect Silicon-On-Diamond Substrates:

Method for growing white color diamonds by using diborane and
nitrogen in combination in a microwave plasma chemical vapor deposition system

EP 2622115 A1

Inventors Devi Shanker Misra
Applicant IIA Technologies Pte. Ltd.

Abstract
The present application discloses the details of a microwave plasma chemical vapor deposition process that uses Nitrogen and Diborane simultaneously in combination along with the Methane and Hydrogen gases to grow white color diamonds. The invention embodies using nitrogen to avoid inclusions and impurities in the CVD diamond samples and Diborane for the color enhancement during the growth of diamond. It is also found that heating of the so grown diamonds to 2000 C results in significant color enhancement due to the compensation of Nitrogen and Boron centers in the samples. The origin of the various colors in diamond is explained on the basis of the band diagram of CVD diamond.

This is the European Patent and the USA version is here:

Method for growing monocrystalline diamonds

US 8992877 B2

Inventors Devi Shanker Misra
Original Assignee
Lia Technologies Pte. Ltd.,
Indian Institute Of Technology Bombay

Abstract
A method of forming mono-crystalline diamond by chemical vapor deposition, the method comprising the steps of: (a) providing at least one diamond seed; (b) exposing the seed to conditions for growing diamond by chemical vapor deposition, including supplying reaction gases that include a carbon-containing gas and hydrogen for growing diamond and include a nitrogen-containing gas; and (c) controlling the quantity of nitrogen-containing gas relative to other gases in the reaction gases such that diamond is caused to grow by step-growth with defect free steps without inclusions. The nitrogen is present in the range of 0.0001 to 0.02 vol %. Diborane can also be present in a range of from 0.00002 to 0.002 vol %. The carbon-containing gas can be methane.

We have to wait until 2029 until the technique
is useable by EVERYONE...although it looks like
the original Florida company research has been
sold or re-purposed for production of Electronic
Substrates used for High Speed Microcircuit applications.

So it looks like Intel may YET STILL HAVE an option to buy
these guys out and start giving us our 50 GHZ i7 CPU !!!!

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We can use almost ANY glass-like poly-or-mono-crystalline substance
as a substrate. Sapphire, Alumina Ceramic, even pure distilled water
ICE could be made into a microcircuit substrate if you want to get
all technical about it!

The issues are cost of making, thermal stability and thermal conductivity,
mechanical strength and electrical NON-CONDUCTIVITY !

Read about SCIO Diamond which if I remember is the
original compamy that started this recent focus
on making Silicon-on-Diamond substrates for
high-speed electronics:

SCIO Diamond:
sciodiamond.com...


Original September 2003 Wired Magazine Article
on startups that make diamonds using Pressure and Heat
or Vapor Deposition techniques:

www.wired.com...

a reply to: Bedlam


BEds....what about that stuff called liquid circuitry they have now? its in a ink style medium an d it dries as workable circuitry.
Surely if that spossible its possible to do what Star is saying right?

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Bedlam


BEds....what about that stuff called liquid circuitry they have now? its in a ink style medium an d it dries as workable circuitry.
Surely if that spossible its possible to do what Star is saying right?

It dries as conductive traces. Not components. It's sort of one layer crude pcb in a syringe.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Bedlam


BEds....what about that stuff called liquid circuitry they have now? its in a ink style medium an d it dries as workable circuitry.
Surely if that spossible its possible to do what Star is saying right?

It dries as conductive traces. Not components. It's sort of one layer crude pcb in a syringe.

Ok. now expanding on that...say using graphene and putting it in layers with each layer seperated into a diffrent peice could it be possible to make a stacked component?

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Bedlam


BEds....what about that stuff called liquid circuitry they have now? its in a ink style medium an d it dries as workable circuitry.
Surely if that spossible its possible to do what Star is saying right?

It dries as conductive traces. Not components. It's sort of one layer crude pcb in a syringe.

Ok. now expanding on that...say using graphene and putting it in layers with each layer seperated into a diffrent peice could it be possible to make a stacked component?

Conductors aren't components. We already have stacked layers of conductors, that's called a PCB.

a reply to: Bedlam

Ahho got ya. yeah graphenes conductive only. got it.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Bedlam

Ahho got ya. yeah graphenes conductive only. got it.

On Friday one of our engineers informed me of a
Technique where thermoplastics are infused in
a 3D lattice-like manner with Nanodots
of a true conductor that allows a beam technology
Of sufficiently short wavelength to be allowed
To focus and hit specific 3D-XYZ coordinates
within the polycrystalline polycarbonate and
fuse conductive Nanodots together to form
3D pathways of melted nanowire and
charge-holding wells which can then form the basis of simple circuit paths and a 3D stacked data storage system at densities quite exceeding
bluray storage media.

I was informed that specific wavelengths would
not break the hydrocarbon chains within the "hard plastic" yet still allow highly localized microheating of neighboring nanodots to fuse together to form nanowire pathways or allow
Localized microheating of the polycarbonate
To form "collapse bubbles" which can form a
A charge-holding well/bubble if infused with
A specific configuration of nanodots. Those
Bubbles can then be connected in series to
Form a non-volatile storage medium.

It is envisioned that large cubic blocks of thermoplastic then becomes the supporting
structure for a 3D storage system of absolutely
HUGE Capacity!

While Bedlam and our engineers do point out
Specific electron-transfer issues that prevent
thermoplastics in general from becoming
Semiconductive for boron, etc doping purposes
Which would allow the creation of actual
P-N junctions, a thermoplastic is VERY USEFUL
as a 3D stackable supporting medium for
Holding conductive and semiconductive
material in-place for purposes of making
A stacked 3D circuit. High purity Silicon
Or Germanium, etc ARE expensive BUT
I do see MUCH CHEAPER organic transistors
being embedded into protective thermoplastics
As a viable possibility at a price point that may
Yet allow us 35 CPUs for TWO DOLLARS !!!

a reply to: StargateSG7

I was interested in what specific beam technology would be able to focus on and hit a nanodot that
Is on the order on 10 nm or less to form a melted
Together nanowire circuit pathway yet NOT break
Or fracture hydrocarbon chains in any thermoplastic.

I expect it would have to be something like
electron beam or Xray laser because extreme
Ultraviolet wavelengths WOULD be absorbed
by a polycarbonate and WOULD cause diffuse
heating within the petroleum-based
Hydrocarbon chains within any given thermoplastic thus ruining the 3D support
Structure for the nanodots or nanowires!

a reply to: Bedlam

It's asking a lot for someone to read a 10 page help file and pop out even something as piss-simple as a Raspberry Pi PCB, much less say "here's a sea of gates, gen yourself up an Nvidia graphics chip, then design the board it goes on, then fabricate it, then assemble it, then write the sw for it".

Jesus, dude: you rock.