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Black Missouri Football Players Boycotting Team Activities Until School President Leaves Office

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posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 03:07 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Thanks for reposting, kayla!

I had already posted it once, and I mentioned that.

Amazing that some folks just won't read.




posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
I posted the entire resignation speech from the president. Show me where he says these racial problems talked about by the activist exist. I have asked you repeatedly, and yet you continue this lie. Sorry to let facts get in the way of your narrative.
Again, I can prvide communities of white racist saying how evil or lazy blacks in there communities are, does this mean must be true because they are there?


If you had any doubt about who I am referring to, I thought I'd let you know, it's you.

I'm sorry you hadn't bothered to keep up with the actual facts of the situation, but, indeed, I had linked the President's words earlier in the thread.

I wasn't lying; I wasn't wrong.

Now you know.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 07:56 AM
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he admitted there was systemic racism at the university and all around? Sounds like a sentence right out of welcome week at one of the presentations about racism, followed by a presentation about sexual assault.

The faculty and coaches are playing politics, instead of using reason they are just letting these people run rampant with emotion. Not approaching these allegations and demands in an adult to adult manner is racist in itself.

No white guy would get this treatment, they would say those demands are outrageous and laugh at him. I've had this similar situation of a drunk black guy at university run into me, say some stuff and then threaten to get all his brothers around who were on the street to beat the f out of me.
guess what, this stuff happens. Slurs, gay/sexual jokes, general put downs, threats, happen all the time as a guy.

Also quota's? that's some racism in itself. Thomas sowell has shown the problem is that not enough blacks make it to that level of education and if they do, they are so sought after bc "diversity" that they make more money than white counterparts.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66


If you had any doubt about who I am referring to, I thought I'd let you know, it's you.

I'm sorry you hadn't bothered to keep up with the actual facts of the situation, but, indeed, I had linked the President's words earlier in the thread.

I wasn't lying; I wasn't wrong.

Now you know.


Indeed I missed that. You had posted in on like page 6 of this thread. I will admit he said that, though you could have simply said "I posted it on page six", but whatever. I do find it suspect that in that statement when he is still trying to save his job he mentions race, but not in his resignation.

The interesting thing is I am willing to read your points, and admit when you make a strong one. You on the other hand have not responded to anything that people on the other side have said. You are content to ignore 99% of everything said and only point out the one thing you think you have right.

Care to address the timeline that has been gone over meticulously by people? Oh wait, we weren't there so its just our opinions.

Care to address the ridiculous list of demands that were made that has been gone through? Well that may not suit your argument, so you better ignore that.

Care to address the fact that you said now the situation is resolved, but as activist are now saying this is just the beginning? I already had a link, but here is another from today.

"This is just a beginning in dismantling systems of oppression in higher education, specifically the UM system," Marshall Allen, a member of the protest group Concerned Student 1950, said.


www.cnn.com...

Or would you like to address the fact that while closet racists yell things out at blacks on universities, the universities almost across the board offer degrees on attacking whites, and that the list of demands from these activists includes suggestions that are racist?

Of course you won't don't want to. Because it is easier to brush these facts aside and just say "Racism!" and keep on with the narrative.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 09:15 AM
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There is proof that the blackout was an inside job.

They paid a person to do a drive by racial slur.

Let's hope the teachers get control back from their students.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

That's a lie because white folks have brought up lawsuits at HBCU's about the racism they face.

bossip.com...

So, no. Your wrong.
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posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

So ... because the President of the University didn't make his speech in exactly the words or terminology you would prefer, that makes you think he's lying? Perhaps he actually benefited from those presentations you're referring to somewhat snidely, and used that terminology as he recognized what had been happening?

That's a thought.

So ... your evaluation is, if a university body acknowledges it has a problem and begins to work to resolve it, it's merely playing politics and/or emotional overraction ... because that's your opinion? Based on your belief that all charges of racism are fabricated?

Okay. If you had read any of the background you would know that the students had been trying to discuss the issues for monhts to no avail.

Ah ... anecdotes. You had a Black guy react badly to you while he was drunk once ... well sure, we can use that as a general rule everywhere, right? It's just a "guy thing?" Anyone who has a problem with anything is just overreacting, emotional and feminine/effeminate?

Sounds like you need to do a chest bump with your buds to emphasize the point there.

Ah, yes, quotas. The darling of any right-winger comments about racism. Yep, quotas can be racist. They can also address past racism, and any quota system should be a means to an end, not an end.

As far as your last drifting off toward your own racial observations ... why don't you cite what study or essay or blog post you're referring to, so we can all work with actual facts?

Here's an observation: you and many others here will do anything and say anything to minimize the situation when those people, White and Black, Students, Faculty, Administrators who are actually on the campus in the situations have acknowledged that there ARE problems and that they ARE going to work on them



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 10:17 AM
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If you had read any of the background you would know that the students had been trying to discuss the issues for monhts to no avail.


Who did they try to talk to and what were the talks to be about?

What on going issues were referred to by the students?



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Of course you are going to find fault with anything that doesn't match up with your belief/agenda, so?

Facts are irrelevant to you as you have demonstrated here repeatedly ... and all you do is to make the same accusation in return when called on it. I'm not that interested in your personal opinions, so don't take it personally if I don't choose to respond to every one.

I'm not sure why you're offering your personal critique of my posting habits, or why that's relevant to the topic, but I have responded to every reasonable comment that has been directed at me.

Take care of the splinters in your own eyes and I'll take care of mine.

You're right ... I have no interest in addressing your personal interpretation of these facts which is all you're offering.

You haven't proven yourself interesting. And it is you who are not being truthful when you claim that my or anyone else's response has been simply "racism" ... though since you've shown you're not reading the thread that carefully, I'm not surprised.

Take your own advice; don't take it personally.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I hope you will respond to some of the questions I asked you in the previous post.

Your one point that "Everyone their agrees there is a problem" seems to not be true either. The football players were not all united.


“As much as we want to say everyone is united, half the team and coaches—black and white—are pissed,” the unnamed player told ESPN’s Brett McMurphy. “If we were 9-0, this wouldn’t be happening.”

“Not everyone agrees with the decision [to stop all football activities],” the player said. “Most people are pissed, including the black guys [on the team].”


Now people are taking to social media to express their disgust with the events.


Today I learned that my university is run by its football team. Today I learned that the media cares more about creating a story than uncovering the truth. Today I learned that the right of a small group to protest is more important than the entire student body’s right to the education they pay for. Today I learned that one man is responsible for the heinous actions of a few campus racists. Today I learned that not supporting one group protesting racism makes you a racist, even though you support the fight against racism–just not that specific group. Today I am not proud to be a tiger.

www.breitbart.com...

So does that mean because there is not universal agreement that this protest was a good thing we can go back to looking at facts?



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

As I just said, I have no interest in responding to every opinion expressed here; sorry.

As far as your comment, there does seem to be at least two people who disagree on social media.

So, not "everyone" agrees with the President's statements or what has happened is happening. Bravo.

You get a point. May I amend to "almost everyone"? LOL

I'm sure there will be more complaints; that's what people do.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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Again, let's keep in mind that the protest wasn't really about racism on campus it was how the Administration was handling complaints and incidents. That's the key point. When an administration, no matter in what area is out of touch and unresponsive, they need to go and be replaced. Simple.

Also keep in mind that the two administrators didn't really have any student support...from any section or demographic of the student body. That's telling. Another thing to keep in mind is they didn't fight this. They laid down and quit without fighting back. Another telling thing.

I've been a part of changes like this before. Nobody broke any laws or died or was overtly racist or overtly unethical, in my situation, but it was an administration and administrators that were out of touch with the community they represented. They had to change.

I still don't get why you think student protests are a bad thing. There were tens of thousands of students who could have counter protested or supported the administration. We should be telling the youth today to stand up for what they believe in.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: amazing

That is very much different then claiming the campus is full of racism.

That is what I take exception with.

Even then the only alleged incidents were of the nature that can not be combatted by any one on campus.

If your story hold true then we will soon hear of specific incidents where someone was not reprimanded but was caught being racist. that is not the case either

the funny thing is that the racism cries are so strong that all it would take to shut everyone up is just one verifiable racial experience with a victim and a perp.

racism like the student reporter being bullied by students is real and ignored because apparently it did not fit the secret powers that be agenda.

so the only real hatred and racist actions on film are ignored



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 05:24 PM
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I'd like to address some points I made earlier not about the main topic here, but about the video of the ConcernedStudent1950 area of the protests and the confrontation with the photographer.

I've read multiple accounts of this incident, as well as looking at the video.

There is nothing that I can see or that I have read that would explain how this group of 10-15 students (and at least 3 professors/administrators) were acting.

The way that these particular students acted, and more directly, the way the professors acted is to me absolutely unacceptable. They are exhibiting the kinds of coercive behavior they were there to protest (although there didn't seem to be a racial component to it honestly), and there's just no reason for it that I have been able to discover.

One of the folks is "up for review" over the incident:



Assistant Professor Melissa Click, featured in several videos confronting journalists, is not a faculty member in the Missouri School of Journalism.

She is a member of the MU Department of Communication in the College of Arts and Science. In that capacity she holds a courtesy appointment with the School of Journalism. Journalism School faculty members are taking immediate action to review that appointment.


Washin gton Post

I know that there are many ways to look at a situation, and I know I don't know what the reporters did before the confrontation started, but I do know that they are on State property and the reporters have the same right to be there as they do.

I sincerely regret any remarks I made here that minimize what happened to these young reporters.

On the other hand, the actions of this handful of students and faculty do not make any statement about what had been happening on the Missouri campus. In my zeal to point that out, I mistakenly minimized an obvious injustice.
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posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

It's not a matter of simply "being offended" nor does it have anything to do with "being free."


Of course it does! There are two claims of someone being offended by alleged racist remarks. There is one claim of a symbol that most find offensive. As for "being free", are you against free speech?


originally posted by: Gryphon66
These are the shibboleths the right-wing always rolls out when avoiding blatant racism and hate crimes.


That's the exact claim always made by the left hen claiming racism and "hate crimes", when there is no proof of any crime at all. Claims on scial media sites are not "blatant racism" either; they re simply claims.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
"The posted timeline" ... yes, I posted a few myself, trying to make sense of it. Here's the thing though, the students, faculty, administrators, the Head Coach and the President of the University have ALL STATED that these problems do exist.


Some students say there is a problem. The faculty set up classes to address the problem, if there is one. Basically, someone can claim someone else offended them, and get special treatment as a result, and free speech ends up being stifled. The faculty can't claim there isn't an issue without being called racist. Oh, wait, even though they claim there is an issue, the president is still being called racist.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
The armchair pundits around here from whom "there is no racism in America anymore" is a matter of faith are not on the ground, do not know what has happened, do not know what these students face everyday.


Sorry, but that label doesn't work..Everyone here lives in the real world, and sees what happens around them. Those students aren't being denied access to anyplace on campus, they aren't being denied classes, and in fact, many likely obtained funding not available to white students. They are not oppressed by some random comment or symbol. I didn't see anyone stating that "there is no racism in America anymore", either. I have seen people comment, correctly, that a lot of the racism seen these days isn't from whites. When people are targeted for violence, based on their white skin color, that concerns me a lot more than someone being offended by a comment shouted from a car window.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
I'm sure you, like others here, would claim that until someone is lynched ... there's no real problem, and probably not even then.


When someone is lynched, they can lodge a legitimate complaint. Shouted comments aren't lynching. As for your implication that I or others would condone such, you should know better than to post personal attacks. You are doing far worse with that than anything reported on that campus thus far. Shame on you.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
It is certainly the President's job to deal with situations that threaten the campus community. That's preposterous to even say.


Words and a symbol are not "threats" to the campus community. Claiming they are is what is preposterous.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
The facts are that everyone on the campus admits there are serious problems. The President took a course of action that is honorable, unlike the whining and gnashing of teeth here because a White man recognized that there is a serious problem with racial issues and acted to remedy that as best he could.


Do link to the poll of everyone on campus, for your proof of that claim. I am sure that all reading this thread would like to see that. The issue here is that the white man who took action, based on unproven claims, is being demonized by those complaining, which fact seems to have escaped your attention. There is indeed a problem with racial issues, but it isn't the one you think it is.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
This blows one of the primary pillars of the right-wing's racism narrative out of the water: he acknowledged the problems.


Again, he has no choice but to accept a problem, even with no proof, because asking for proof would gain him a racist label.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
Of course he had to be coereced, of course he was bought off or only doing it for the money or threatened in some way. Not because any of you have any facts that support those wild beliefs, but because you cannot accept that a White man did the right thing and not only acknowledged the racial issues but has acted, in the best way he can, to make a difference.


He bowed to political pressure, and assumed that students need to be taught what not to say, because doing any less could have brought riots to his campus. We all know that happens as a matter of course in these cases.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
Like I said above. The situation is hopefully on it's way to reparation. The racists have lost this round.

Deal with it.


Looks like the racists are winning to me. But then, you can't accept that anyone not white can be racist, so I am sure you disagree.



posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 08:25 PM
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The great majority of that is too absurd to respond to. However in rough order of what you said:

It may shock you to discover that you don't get to tell people what offends them, when they should be offended, etc.

No, I'm not against free speech. Trying to wrap every point you make in "freedom" or "America" or "God" is just asinine though.

You also don't get to define crime for everyone. These feeble attempts trying to minimize everything and belittle everyone your political dogma doesn't accept merely demonstrates small-minded bias if not bigotry.

The President of the University, the Chancellor, a majority of the faculty and administration has stated clearly that there is a problem. They are more believable than you ... another poster with an obvious agenda on the internet.

Oh of course. You and the people who agree with you here have some sort of special corner on reality in your own mind. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is racist, communist, atheist, whatever -ist you think might stick. Keep telling yourself that.

... and I'm bored now. The situation is resolving itself. Save your energy for the next case of racism you want to deny exists.

... and have a great evening!



posted on Nov, 11 2015 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

The great majority of that is too absurd to respond to. However in rough order of what you said:


Is that your excuse for not responding to some of my other comments, such as the one about the swastika? Convenient, that.....


originally posted by: Gryphon66
It may shock you to discover that you don't get to tell people what offends them, when they should be offended, etc.


It may shock you to discover that neither you nor anyone else has a right to demand that no one ever offends them, what others might say, etc.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
No, I'm not against free speech. Trying to wrap every point you make in "freedom" or "America" or "God" is just asinine though.


So, what is your brilliant solution to people being offended by free speech? Claiming you support free speech, while supporting a cause that is against it, is pretty asinine, if you ask me. Or, even if you don't.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
You also don't get to define crime for everyone. These feeble attempts trying to minimize everything and belittle everyone your political dogma doesn't accept merely demonstrates small-minded bias if not bigotry.


Aww, gee, I forgot I wasn't in a special group that gets to do such things! It's only those others that get to demand people are fired for having the wrong skin color, because some other person offended the group, right? You're a real piece of work. That sort of nonsense is the worst sort of bigotry.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
The President of the University, the Chancellor, a majority of the faculty and administration has stated clearly that there is a problem. They are more believable than you ... another poster with an obvious agenda on the internet.


There is a problem; some students think that if anyone offends then, it's an excuse to fire the white guy. Their agenda is indeed obvious. It's becoming a trend. Look at the uproar over Halloween memos. Scream, complain, clain racism, and fire the other race. Obvious, indeed.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
Oh of course. You and the people who agree with you here have some sort of special corner on reality in your own mind. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is racist, communist, atheist, whatever -ist you think might stick. Keep telling yourself that.


No, that would be you. Most here can see the problem, but you keep pretending it's something else. Everyone that is white must be racist in your eyes, and stating that isn't so makes them more racist. Keep telling yourself that.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
... and I'm bored now. The situation is resolving itself. Save your energy for the next case of racism you want to deny exists.

... and have a great evening!


Sure, it will be "resolved" when all the employees of the universities are non-white, right?


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