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Lights in the sky above LA

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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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Why is this thread under the 'Aliens & UFOs' category?
I would have thought the 'World War 3' category would have been more appropriate...




posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
I imagine all the red lights were flashing on enemy social media. Maybe that was the point, stress testing the enemy....seeing who calls whom within the command chain, so it could be disrupted more easily at a later time.

Pretty interesting data set could be obtained and analysed when the news of a go launch comes in really fast, and not from normal military channels and their detection methods.

If anyone has insight on this theory....
That's what I was going after actually till I get others calling me stupid.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: proob4
Are you calling me STUPID? That was a "stupid" move on your part. I am just voicing my opinions and and questions and having discussions here. how dare you?


I said your arguments and concerns were stupid, not you. But now that I know you can't read.... well nevermind.
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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: FlyingFox

In all likelihood, "the enemy" had been informed that the launch was going to occur.


What if....not? Was NATO informed of the recent Topal M test?

As I was saying, there could be a definite purpose to NOT informing the enemy.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: WeAre0ne

originally posted by: proob4
Are you calling me STUPID? That was a "stupid" move on your part. I am just voicing my opinions and and questions and having discussions here. how dare you?


I said your arguments and concerns were stupid, not you. But now that I know you can't read.... well nevermind.
You're Rude, dont expect any more out of me. So why don't you call flyingfox post stupid also? HUH Why? Wer are just debating and giving opinions.
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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

There are notification procedures in place prior to any missile launch, but either Russia or the US to prevent any misunderstandings and potential launches in return.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

What if....not? Was NATO informed of the recent Topal M test?
This one?


Russia informed the United States earlier this week that it would carry out a test launch Tuesday of an intercontinental ballistic missile, a US defense official said.

"We have been notified of this test earlier this week. It's not unexpected," the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told AFP.

www.newsmax.com...



As I was saying, there could be a definite purpose to NOT informing the enemy.
Yes, because letting them think they may be under nuclear attack is a good idea.


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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

If you don't, you get situations like what happened in Turkey. The US, and didn't notify the Soviet Union prior, and Soviet missile commanders were ordered to launch a full scale retaliatory strike in response. Fortunately one of those commanders decided to wait a minute, and they determined that it wasn't a first strike, and they stood down. After that, procedures were put in place to stop that from happening again.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: proob4
Ok what I am trying to say is this Phage.
Are you trying to tell me and the great folks on ATS that they had no idea that launching this missile at that exact time would not cause a extreme colossal aerial display they way it did?

Even though you and Jim surmised early last night on the effects of the sun had on the plume of this missile and now you are saying they testers had no idea that this effect would not happen yet you both immediately knew of this effect?

Really?


It happens by accident or by design, you can deduce which by looking at statistical behavior, I've shown indications of design in the KYSS missions, why don't you test that model against time-of-launch statistics of Trident west coast launches? I'd be interested in the results, really. But not guesses.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: game over man

They don't need social media, they have geosynchronous satellites that watch for missile launches. They would know 30 seconds after a missile went airborne that one was launched, and within two or three minutes where it was going.


North Korea has spy sats?



www.cbsnews.com...


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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: proob4

originally posted by: JimOberg
Note that the NAVWARN message runs through tomorrow night and was NOT cancelled after Saturday night's launch.
Oh and that leads me to another thing? Why is that NAVWARN msg you been posting dated for the 15th?


It's not. That's the YEAR.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

Why did you ignore the post which was being replied to?

Our enemy would know a missile is coming there way because they would see pictures and videos go viral on the internet and social media. So they would be able to intercept it.

So this missile could hit Russia in 30 minutes after launch? 5194 miles / 18,030 mph


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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

Why would North Korea even be worried about it? Any missiles going towards them is going to be mistaken for going to China, and China is probably going to launch in retaliation.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: ZeroGhost

"The blue tail we see in last nights missile are released propellant component gasses being ionized by solar and space born radiation or energetic particles. Much like electrodes in a florescent bulb send electrons through the glass tube filled with gasses and make them glow. Different types of gasses will release different frequencies of photons from the atomic collision of an enegetic particle (electron to X-Ray) Deep space nebula glows from this too if not reflecting star light."

That part makes a lot of sense to me. Last night I briefly thought of the solar radiation hitting the atmosphere and planet of the last several days when I first saw the pictures, wondering if it was exaggerating the visual effects.
edit on 8-11-2015 by tweetie because: Added quotation marks.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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you know im kinda surprised that knowone has thought that the miltary maybe did this at that time of day just to give us a show. it is veterans day here on the 11th. it could be an extremely mundane test and whether the public sees it or not could maybe have no effect on the test, so why not give the tax payers a show and let them see what their hard earned money goes towards.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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So presumably the altitude of this missile was very high. Why then does what appears to be the smoke diffuse over such a large area so quickly?



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: somnum

Because the exhaust gasses are moving very fast and there is not much in their way, being outside the atmosphere and all.

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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: Phage

At that height, would it not be so diffuse as to be difficult to see? If you're talking about gasses traveling at whatever rate they're ejected in some sort of explosion, it would become invisible soon enough? Wouldn't this cloud be like a hundred miles across or something absurd if this was actually in space?




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