Trans Woman Asks: 'You Really Want Me In The Same Bathroom As Your Husband?'

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: Grambler

No, it's not an Illness

Ok, then what did your point have anything to do with the op saying we need to allow trans people to use whatever restroom they are comfortable with because its an illness?

Look I understand many people here are feel strongly about defending the rights of trans people and I think that is admirable. As I stated before, I have no problem with trans people and don't care if they use restrooms that I do. I just have a problem with the way this side argues.

Firstly, although trans people are a very small percentage of people, people here arguing are saying there feelings matter but no one elses. I think this is ridiculous. Its also argued that people that disagree are all bigots. Do you not see the irony that this lumping together of people and demonizing them is the exact thing that trans people are fighting against?

We even have a member on here bragging about how they got someone fired for saying something offensive. If that is the tolerance that you are all striving for then count me out.

a reply to: Grambler

Yes and I would do it again.
Do you think it is right to have someone who calls the people they are supposed to look after "It".
How would you like your son or daughter having to have someone like this look after them?.
If the guy has not gotten the empathy towards the guys I look after he was in the wrong job, others raided concerns of minor abuse and like it or not calling guys you are supposed to look after "It" is abuse.

a reply to: Grambler

Oh and I wouldn't at work in my professional capacity my own time well....
It isn't acceptable but maybe you think what the guy said is?.

I am a nudist and this is funny.

You have never been to parts of europe.
www.chicagotribune.com...

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: MrWendal

Because it's not a "Man who looks like a Woman" a Trans Woman Is a Woman

Actually no. A Trans women is not a "women". You can cut off a penis, you can add boobs, you can wear a dress but you can not change your chromosomes. Test any "Transwomen" and you will find that they still have an XY Chromosome.

But we can argue all day long over this. Fact is, I do not really care. Want to call them "women"? Fine by me. The subject here is about Transgenders and bathroom assignments. Not if a Transgender women is really a female or not.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Look you claimed you got a person fired just because he called a person "it". I think calling a person "it" is terrible, but I wouldn't run to my boss and get them fired, I would have a discussion with that person about being insensitive. Now I know you will say you did that, and that he was bad in other ways, but your original point was bragging that you got omeone fired for just saying "it"

This is ironic given a thread you created a month ago where you said:

I like the fact I can say what is on my mind on the net without reprecussions because you actually tell the truth more and we can see what people really think whether you agree or not.

I think some were never taught as a child "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".

In fact in this thread you are saying you disagree with feminists, something that.... people have been fired for! Maybe someone needs to inform your employer of this.

a reply to: Grambler


But it is my job to report things like to the appropriate folk not to have a chat with them that would be hiding what he had said.
Our company has very strict policies to stop any abuse of our guys and one is whistleblowing, grassing up I suppose but I will continue to do so when my guys quality of life is at stake.
He broke the law at the end of the day and If he would have been filmed the SU he was talking about would have sued and won and the company would have been investigated for keeping guys like that on.
I agree with most feminists (ones for equality) but many are not and I would say that to my Boss If she wanted to know.

Remember it is different when on my time but at work I have to be a different person to help protect my guys the guy didn't just say it to me also he said it to at least three other people because we all complained over one week.

But I get fiercely protective of my dudes because they can't stick up for themselves so need a voice sometimes.. But me people can say what they like about me.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: criticalhit

You being a "Liberal" has nothing to do with it, it doesn't "Qualify You"

Trans is not a Fetish, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Pansexual, Queer, Gender Fluid, none of those are "Fetishes" your Sexual Orientation and Gender-Identity are not "Fetishes".

Being a Trans person in Public, or any GLBTQ+ person in public is not "Flaunting" or "Displaying" anything, it's called "Living" the same thing that Straight people do when they are in Public.

Caitlyn is not just "Dressing Up" as a girl and putting on Lipstick, She is a Woman not Dress up... maybe try learning some things before you let ignorance blind you

Instead of wasting your time using the wrong pronouns and using slurs like Tranny, and having to Qualify your thoughts as being a "Liberal" Focus on being the best person you can be

Well, this all isn't true. and using the word "ignorance" doesn't make you right nor does kind of biased university based thoughts that become common make them actually correct.

I went to a performing arts school in NYC, literally half the male population was Gay and yeah I knew plenty of Transexuals too most of my life, I'd say 20-30 years before these issues became issues stuck up crazy mid western types etc in America had to "deal" with this and started creating pc wording and debating it, this was all normal life for me in the village.

1: I do not believe (in this particular case) Bruce Jenner is the real deal, I think almost every body has some degree of sexual diversity, T levels decline with age, the fact that things are more acceptable induces people to try things... and in the case of Bruce HE is full of crap, narcissistic, a liar and an insult to people with real struggles... That's the honest vibe I get, i've seen studies recently from Europe that are saying since there has been a public push for "acceptance" like 80% of young Europeans have experimented or taken time to be "gay" and almost universally return to being "straight" and the numbers of actual homosexuals trans-gendered people haven't budged... It is my opinion but I think like the rest of his attention whore extended family Bruce is more brain bent than gender bent.

2: I have all respect for a person IF and it happens is kind of born in the wrong body and wants to be a woman they should be allowed to. I get from your title you are perhaps one of those people... A: you probably shouldn't be supportive imho of the trendy end of this, that anyone with an itch should be entering this realm for shiz and giggles, sexual reassignment, the difficulties in life which will always be there, hormones these things aren't games and it's apparent when you are 7 not 70 and there is again imho a very, very big difference between this mattering at 16-35 or so and doing it when it matters and being old at 45... sex doesn't matter to me as much as it used to, I don't think it will matter at all by the time i'm old and there is just a lot more to life than "gender identity" and sexual satisfaction" I find on the Bruce thing the guy to be really shallow, it's not the gender issue but let me quote Gandolf the Grey "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" it's "nice" I suppose to tell him how pretty she is but lol... he looks terrible, he looks like mockery of woman not a sexy she, it's apparent and yeah I know, I know it's not ALL about that, but that end of it is futile at this point and I think it's even in line with really old guy taking Viagra to keep having sex when no one wants to with them anyway... I'm saying there IS a point when the gender stuff largely disappears and your relationships are kind of asexual and that is a good not a bad thing, wanting to wear a dress at his age vs pants is kind of moot to me and seems more like a mental thing in a society that i oversexed and puts too much concern to it from both ends of the spectrum both repressed conservatives and uber liberals

3: Starting where #2 ends... we are way too conflicted, confused and focused on sex as the and all and be all of life... There have always been and always will be people who are so niche in appearance, sexuality, desires that sexuality in general is difficult for them, that they just can't fit in with the bulk of people, or in worst case scenarios just plain suffer... I think honestly for many people that... being less focused on how important the issue is, is better, easier... it's not societies job to cater to them, to alter for the 90-95% the way you do things rather than people learn to not "always" and in certain realms make people uncomfortable because of their controllable desires... I don't think a person attracted to teenagers or kids can really help that, or they are evil bad inhuman etc... I DO think at that point in time though "tough crap on you" comes into play, that person has to realize they don't get to be "sexual" (in that case at all) because everyone else in the world will crush them and there is no way that will work out and yes... there is life without sexual action, it can be a great life but no, you can never indulge in your desire, you have to accept it and move on or your not long for the world... NO I am not comparing gender displacement to that extremity, people Can be helped to deal with it today and what adults do is what adults do. But there is a LARGE difference to me, between a young person who usually looks the part, can absolutely by appearance "pass" as legitimately female and can go on to be female literally female to where there is no debate.... no reaction by passers by etc, etc and... a 70 year old cross dresser who imho is engaging in a fetish and wants to place there "thing" in public view for vicarious thrills. Those people imho hurt the cause of people who really from a younger age can go on to fulfill their actual sexual identity

4: All sexuality by vast majority is "Fetish" even heterosexuality, truly being largely across the board "Female" by brain make up from birth is very rare, It is something that help can be given in it's an actual issue it can be addressed in a sane society long before the bathroom issue even exists etc etc. The problem people have in't the boy who needed to be a girl the only example where you are a girl...there is no debate, its the questionable, it's the your all over the place types, by numbers you'd find more cross dressing hyper sexualized to the point of obsession and confusion bi/pan sexual men entering the woman's or men's bathrooms than actual trans-gendered people by miles... that's what makes "straights" uncomfortable and NO... in society, the bulk isn't there to be made uncomfortable by the issues of the people who are somewhat "beyond" what the "woman" in that comment said, you don't want me in the bathroom with your husband... she's kind of out there, okay the rest of us go to the bathroom to use the bathroom and you know... you know the Bathroom among some people who are hyper sexual becomes a place to try and score straight guys or on the other end the womans bathroom for deviant voyeuristic guys.... come on YOU KNOW, I grew in the Village lets be real there is a body of guys in the Gay community who are sex addicts and USE the situation to there advantage or at least try to and NO the bathroom isn't for blow jobs and it make other Homosexuals and Trans-gendered people look bad.

a reply to: Grambler

No one ever said "Illness" he said "gender Dysphoria" which is Not an Illness

This wasn't started by Woman who said they felt Uncomfortable, this whole attack on Trans people started by Men who said if you allow Trans people to use their correct restroom it would mean Men would pretend to be Trans to attack Little Girls in Bathrooms,

They put the attack as if Trans people are Sexual Deviant people who pretend just to attack girls in restrooms...

a reply to: MrWendal

I've showed cases where "Men" have been Born with Two X Chromosomes. Cases where "Men" have been born with a Uterus.

This Two Gender Binary concept is absurd, and the real conspiracy

a reply to: Sublimecraft

She'd have to use a 'she-wee' if she was going to try and use the piss trough...she's post op, so no wee willy winky.