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For those who continue to believe nobody knows why the pyramids were built

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: Marduk
Thank you for doing exactly what I imagined you would do..you asked me why I believed in a missing civilization -
I told you and then you wish to use it against me. It's algood though


I mentioned Gilgamesh in my reply - you overlooked that.

Yes, the Tower of Babel story isn't original to scripture - none of the bible stories are.
Your a historian so you should know that and when I'm discussing ancient history with another historian - I seem tot think they know the jest to history and don't have to explain every nook and cranny - but I guess with you I do - even though I have read where you have a good grasp on scripture..I still supplied my version as your request.

You have tried every tactic to throw me off - including the silly Ancient Aliens picture..even complaining that I should be expelled from this thread - yes, go back and read your replies.
Please keep trying, I appreciate the effort as I truly do need to hone my skills..for future professionals.


You as well as I know that when people resort to those tactics instead of sticking with the debate - they have lost their own belief in their arguement within their brain.

However I do see you as an intelligent person with much to share with the world..so I am hoping we do become friends -
many others have tried to discredit my theories...but we are friends now (most of them) and they contribute to my quest.
Some have even joined my website or Facebook Community (yes - you didn't think I would be foolish enough to give this material tot he world without 1st Copyrighting the material and placing the information on my personal website did you?)

To all interested - the material including pics I have provided is Copyrighted material but is allowed under free share agreement to be used for educational purposes only and can not be altered or used for profit - enjoy!




posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:55 AM
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Personally I don't see academia history as viable.

Here's two instances...

The Native Aboriginal Indian Totem Pole..much older than the Christian cross and basically tells the same story.
Birth, death-destruction and rebirth. Pretty much the same as the Christian cross but much older.
(I'm part Native Algonquin Indian - biggest tribe in N. America - stretches from BC Canada all the way down to Seminole Florida) Got to ask yourself - why did they want to wipe our history out? What are they trying to hide???

The Turkish Admiral Piri Reis map - it should not exist according to our timeline. Now it was placed on a globe and fit perfectly - which begs the question to ask - how can it fit on a globe and show the outline to S. America when at that time S.A. hadn't been discovered yet? (actually read that article here on ATS a few years back) and how could that map show the outline of Antarctica when It hadn't been discovered as of that time? So did Columbus have a copy of that map to get to the new world? (silly bugger thought he was in India and that's why Native aboriginals are referred to as Indians...lol - we like to think of ourselves as direct descendants of the Olmec/Toltec/Paracas..kidding)
Columbus journey landed him to Cuba.

Using Google Earth and drawing a line straight through the straights of Gibraltar you will end up in Cuba without anything in your way - curious isn't it..? (yes I use todays tech as much as possible to correlate ancient history)

G1 - according to what RCD teaches - to get a specified technological answer the archaeologist must work in strict compliance with RCD as not to contaminate the findings and mess up the age results.
Can it really be used on G1 as it was discovered 70 years ago (approximately) when G1 was has been under excavation long before that and. H. Vise totally messed that up setting off explosives inside G1.
It was probably contaminated long before him when Al Mamoun and his band of Arabs broke into the pyramid.

It's discrepencies like this in history that made me search for other answers.

So what brought me to discover G1 as a replica to our solar system? Egyptian Mythology.
Since a young lad Thoth has been my hero (and why I named the Atacama Giant - my 1st released decoding - Pi Thoth)
Ancient Egyptian mythology gives many clues as to G1 being a representation of the Heavens.
I followed clues mostly..but Strabos gave me the direction. I may have the name wrong so forgive me if I don't check my many documents I have written over the last 10 years - yes I have written more than enough for 3 books - Nazca alone can be made in to a coffee table book of pictures and paragraph instructions to the blueprints) Strabos said - It seemed like the pyramid was let down from the heavens without being touched by human hands. He also said the Tura limestone covering was embossed with strange writing and drawing of planets...YES PLANETS!!!!!!!

Now - wouldn't you think some King, Pharaoh or clergy from the Vatican would have copied those diagrams on G1 into a book before the casing stones were stripped..if so - where is that book - Vatican library possibly?

So that started me correlating astrological numbers and using the method of geometry's "Squaring the Circle" inside G1..which gave me my answers.

No one has used ALL of G1 in an explanation throughout history. Not even the Egyptians - I have -
I explained the QC and the Niche with it's tunnel to no where and why the celestial causeway shafts are extended form the KC & QC. I've explained the GG as a thermal mercury meter which inccidently is explaining Earth's dual climate of Ice age and our global climate heat rise.
I've explained the sarcophagus..it's color is reminiscent of a Sun-Spot and the KC.
What I didn't explain is the other side to the Subterranean area..which is a depiction of Pluto.
The 3 granite plugs that were in the Ascending passage way sit near the variance where the ascending and descending passage ways divide directions to the inner pyramid and the entrance outside or to the Sub area - these Granite plugs no longer there, signify our inner Asteroid Belt.
Upon entering the Pyramid you will find 3 lines etched into the floor - I located Uranis there before I understood the 3 lines..however it is a perfect match. I believe it was 2006 when our astronomers figured out Uranis has THREE RINGS! and it was there all along in G1 - how can this be???

(I've written this off the top of my head without checking my documents so please try not to flail too hard if I made a simple mistake - please help to correct it)

So that's the short of it without showing all the major astronomical calculations I've catalogued...or the specific Code written at Giza.

After discovering what I believe to be one of G1's functions - yes, it is a true Time Capsule!
I changed the names to a more suitable identification - you know, to protect the innocent




Now when I stated that G1 has precise aligned coordinates..I meant the builders actually planned it this way!
WHY??? - apparently G1 is three sixtieths of a degree off of true North.

This was done on purpose to recognize 3 sixtieths as a 3 hundred and sixty degree circle.

Giza tells a huge story, only we haven't been reading the monuments correctly. We need to answer in the same language
that the Giza necropolis is speaking.

edit on 18-12-2015 by AquarianTrumpet because: fun



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
Personally I don't see academia history as viable.

That's obvious, that's why you're failing


originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
The Native Aboriginal Indian Totem Pole..much older than the Christian cross and basically tells the same story.
Birth, death-destruction and rebirth. Pretty much the same as the Christian cross but much older.

What is this supposed to be relevant to, there are many symbols that signify Birth, death and rebirth and the Cross was being used as a symbol thousands of years before the alleged birth of Jesus. I am starting to think that you know very little about real history, your conclusions are either wrong or forced, like you have started with a belief and then looked for facts to support them. That is not how you do things in the real world. Because you have that approach it is extremely hard to take anything you say seriously



originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
The Turkish Admiral Piri Reis map - it should not exist according to our timeline. Now it was placed on a globe and fit perfectly - which begs the question to ask - how can it fit on a globe and show the outline to S. America when at that time S.A. hadn't been discovered yet? (actually read that article here on ATS a few years back) and how could that map show the outline of Antarctica when It hadn't been discovered as of that time? So did Columbus have a copy of that map to get to the new world? (silly bugger thought he was in India and that's why Native aboriginals are referred to as Indians...lol - we like to think of ourselves as direct descendants of the Olmec/Toltec/Paracas..kidding)


In one paragraph you've shown everyone that the only source you have examined on the Piri Reis map are fringe
here are the facts
1. It doesn't show Antartica


Clearly, it just shows Brazil and Argentina, which was charted by Amerigo Vespucci a decade before the Piri Reis map existed, it was normal practice to bend a coastline like that when you'd run out of space at the bottom of the map, or would you like to claim that Brazil and Antartica were joined
That little island group at the bottom is the Falkland islands, its very clear by their presence that the bottom of the map ends with the bottom of Argentina. The coastline is longer than real life because there is a scaling error, this does not make the map amazingly accurate, just the opposite. There are maps from this period which are far more accurate
2. It was compiled in 1513 from older maps, like the map made by Columbus in 1492 and the map made by Amerigo Vespucci a decade earlier who between then charted the entire east coast of the American continent.
3. It has margin notes written by the Admiral it is named after which actually state that it was copied from a map of Columbus, it actually says his name

Please read the wiki link
en.wikipedia.org...
It has all the required details



I find it interesting that you claim that Strabo described the casing of the Great pyramid as having stars and planets on its casing when the casing had been removed around 600 years earlier

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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Now G1's shape is also a clue -

Our solar system travels through the cosmos as our Sun tows our planets.
This is done in a 'conical shape'.
A triangle = the pyramid - is a geometric representation of that conical exercise;
and G1 having Eight sides shows this geometric cone.

The QC is centred to the pyramid and not the KC because WE view our zodiac constellations from Earth.
This is done to show Earth's ecliptic to our Sun during Solstice and Equinox.

Now the Sphinx is not looking at the Leo constellation..it's a representation of Sirius.
Orion has a dog companion Sirius.
The belt stars of Orion somewhat align to the 3 pyramids and the Sphinx aligns to Sirius.
The Sphinx is looking at - a Pole Star.
These are Giza's obvious clues.

Then there's the numerical message Giza applies that correlates Orion's transit.
That specific number is THIRTEEN..marking Orion's half point transit.

G1 is located 130 feet above the Nile..it sits on 13 acres.
The Subterranean level is 113 feet below the plateau's grade.
The KC'S shaft exits at the 103 row of blocks.
G1's height in Imperial math gives you this 13 equation.
G1 is 481 feet in height. 4+8+1 = thirteen.

Now this message is correlated also by Khafre's pyramid and Menkaure's to show 13.

Khafre's pyramid is 175 meters away from G1 which is..1+7+5 = 13.
The Kahfre pyramids base length is given at 706 feet. 7+6 = 13.

There is much much more..but this gives you a small idea of the Code at Giza that I will explain in detail on my own thread regarding the Giza Solar System subject.

So in accordance to this thread name - I do believe I have answered why G1 was built.
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: Marduk

Thank you for the update to the Piri Reis map -
you are more helpful to my quest than I first imagined you would be.
I shall include these findings and your remark about soot in G1.

Now I did say I haven't checked my documents to insure who the quote was from..
but I will if you wish the correct name.

Please continue to help refine my thesis..I honestly do appreciate getting ALL the complete facts together
in support of doing this justice.

Truly thank you Marduk



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
The QC is centred to the pyramid and not the KC because WE view our zodiac constellations from Earth.


Actually, neither is quite centered: users.stlcc.edu...


The belt stars of Orion somewhat align to the 3 pyramids and the Sphinx aligns to Sirius.
The Sphinx is looking at - a Pole Star.
These are Giza's obvious clues.

I think you need to look at the map of Giza again and then look at the constellations. Sirius is not close to Orion's belt. And in fact, since the Sphinx looks eastward, it never actually "looks at" Orion or Sirius (which are more south)


G1 is located 130 feet above the Nile..it sits on 13 acres.

Actually, "no" to both of those. And the measurements "foot" and "acre" weren't made until 1300 AD or thereabouts (some 3,900 years after the pyramids were built.


The Subterranean level is 113 feet below the plateau's grade.
The KC'S shaft exits at the 103 row of blocks.
G1's height in Imperial math gives you this 13 equation.
G1 is 481 feet in height. 4+8+1 = thirteen.

Now this message is correlated also by Khafre's pyramid and Menkaure's to show 13.

Khafre's pyramid is 175 meters away from G1 which is..1+7+5 = 13.
The Kahfre pyramids base length is given at 706 feet. 7+6 = 13.


You would first have to explain why Egyptians were NOT using their standard units of measure (cubit, hand, fingers, seeds) and instead suddenly were using measurements that wouldn't exist until 3,900 years in their future... and then explain why they dropped those measurements once they finished the Great Pyramid and went back to using cubit and hand and so forth.
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: Marduk

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
did any of those guys you mentioned compare the cut marks on the stonework in Egypt with contemporary experiments using bamboo technology? If not they can't claim anything. they ignore the elephant in the room just like some people around here.


a reply to: Marduk




Still waiting for any evidence at all to back your claim, you can claim that the evidence to the contrary is poor all you want, but in the complete absence of any evidence at all from you, its all that's required


the evidence is staring you right in the face: did they or didn't they compare the earlier cuts with the contemporary ones? If so what was their conclusion and if not, how can you claim that's how it was done? Some people come to their conclusion without following standard scientific method and that's fine for them and whoever fits the shoe, but in reality unless you make the comparison you are just chasing yer tail.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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Thank you Byrd..very appreciated.

You folks - all of you truly - are a huge help!

The measurements given would be advanced math if built by a previous intelligent civilization
and would have nothing to do with the known Egyptian math in this hypothetical scenario.

The Sphinx is a marker to Sirius..not looking at Sirius - Sirius would be in alignment ABOVE the Sphinx...
and possibly watching for Thuban to come around..or Draco?

Saqquara and Djedfre are adjacent to Giza's 3 pyramids and the over all is distance is 13.85 kilometers.
13.85 kilometers? well we have the first 13 and then the 5+8 = 13. The two 13's equal the Platonic Tranist of 26000 years.
(this number is given many times at Giza)
This is where Bauval miscalculated - Saquarra, Giza & Djedfre are the actual Orion belt star markers of procession.

Orion's center belt star shines brighter than it should but due to the other two closely associated belt stars..it shines as bright as the other two viewing with the naked eye...so Giza is really a refection of the center belt star...and an example to the equation including the Sphinx as Orion and Sirius. IMO

There is more with the Bent and Red pyramid associated explaining Sirius.

Yes this theory needs refined and why I came here - for the best minds!

I admit I could be wrong on all of this, some of this..or just a little of it.
Now I have only elaborated a short collaboration of my findings - there is much more.

Do I want any of this to be true??? NO
Quite the Pandora's Box wouldn't you say?
The world is not ready for something this sensitive.
I am looking for the best to prove this wrong - or right if that is the case and where
better than to do this but with the minds of the home of denying ignorance?

Now Byrd..if I am possibly right - this quest has led me across the globe showing evidence to this;
I had not been in search of this..but it appeared none the less along with Nazca's blueprints - which aren't G1's real blueprints, they are an undeniable message. That 2D white 'cutaway' of G1 at Nazca is almost 13 kilometers long (12.85 again 8+5=13 or round up 12.85 and you get 13) and it's base is 13 kilometers wide...I don't see an accident and the 2D's height is a direct link to G1's height. 481 or 4+8+1=13.
Also the Heron geoglyph uses it's beak to mark the solstice which the light crosses over the peak of the 2D Nazca cutaway pyramid drawing marking solstice like it does the real G1.

It's not looking like an accident and I have not fudged the numbers.

@Marduk - I did not link all the history of crosses as I did not believe it was pertinent; I did say for an example.
If you go back to the website you linked my Sitchin statement you will find where I have written about Earth's Cross History from years ago.
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edit on 18-12-2015 by AquarianTrumpet because: spelling errors & to add additonal info



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 12:32 PM
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How do you not grasp the simple fact that you have done no such examination that provides evidence supporting your supposition, at all while multiple sources support the counter to your claim?



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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You people who have contributed to this thread and the OP have brilliant minds in my opinion
as I've followed many of your threads and replies over the years
so I wonder if I may stray slightly off topic..but it does have to do with G1.

There is a myth I either was told or read about many years ago in my youth that I can't seem to find
so I am in search of the answer..
The Myth is -

"The Great Pyramid's measurements are built from the measurements
of the common Hummingbird."

Has anyone any information on this statement please?

Oh - the common Hummingbird is 3.3 inches long..and no - they are not common to Egypt.

Thank you all



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: bottleslingguy


How do you not grasp the simple fact that you have done no such examination that provides evidence supporting your supposition, at all while multiple sources support the counter to your claim?


it's really very simple, did they compare the contemporary cut marks with the ones at Giza? I mean scientifically compare them? or did they just assume they would match? it's not a hard question, kinda more like yes or no. and the more you, who take up this main stream claim, dodge around this question, the more I know I and my ilk are on the right track because you guys don't have an answer for it. or you don't want to answer, I mean we all know they didn't compare them so there you go.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
There is a myth I either was told or read about many years ago in my youth that I can't seem to find
so I am in search of the answer..
The Myth is -

"The Great Pyramid's measurements are built from the measurements
of the common Hummingbird."

Has anyone any information on this statement please?

I've never heard of any such thing, nor can I find anything relevant online anywhere. I'd say either someone was telling you something that they themselves made up, or you're misremembering.

And you're correct, hummingbirds are not, and never have been, native to Egypt.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
a reply to: Byrd
The measurements given would be advanced math if built by a previous intelligent civilization
and would have nothing to do with the known Egyptian math in this hypothetical scenario.


Why is the "previous advanced civilization" using feet/inches/acres that are found only in modern English/European cultures?



The Sphinx is a marker to Sirius..not looking at Sirius - Sirius would be in alignment ABOVE the Sphinx...
and possibly watching for Thuban to come around..or Draco?

Sirius is never above the sphinx. It's far to the right. Thuban is far to the north. The Egyptians didn't have a constellation called Draco... they did have star patterns but none of them were Draco.



Saqquara and Djedfre are adjacent to Giza's 3 pyramids and the over all is distance is 13.85 kilometers.

Saqqara is 31 kilometers from Giza's pyramids.
en.wikipedia.org...

Djedefre's pyramid is at Abu Rawash, about 8-9 kilometers north of Giza. en.wikipedia.org...



Orion's center belt star shines brighter than it should but due to the other two closely associated belt stars..it shines as bright as the other two viewing with the naked eye...so Giza is really a refection of the center belt star...and an example to the equation including the Sphinx as Orion and Sirius. IMO


The center star is the dimmest of the three, even to the naked eye: cas.sdss.org...



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd
The center star is the dimmest of the three, even to the naked eye: cas.sdss.org...

Actually, Byrd, that's incorrect. The brighter a star appears, the lower its' magnitude is. Alnilam (the center star in Orion's belt) has an apparent magnitude of 1.69, making it brighter than both Alnitak (1.77) and Mintaka (2.23). As a further point of reference, our sun has an apparent magnitude of -26.8.

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:18 PM
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Marduk -
I am still searching my books to of the author of that statement; patience please - I will find it.

Thank you for your correction Bird..I misrepresented my explanation; here is what I meant -


In astronomy, declination is prescribed to Orion's constellation as declination is the term used to describe the accent/decent of Orion which is ONE DEGREE for ONE CENTURY.

Interestingly Orion's declination starts at 58 degrees..5+8=13

The volume of the three pyramids is 2.59, 2.21 and 0.235 million cubic meters for Khufu, Khafra and Menkaura respectively. By adding the total meters in linnear example such as 25,922.10235 defining into years, do we find an exact count to the Platonic Year?

Okay the Sphinx has me perplexed in this mystery..any ideas? anyone???

Thank you both AdmireTD & Byrd..exactly what I was trying to explain about Orion's center belt star.

This is why I brought this here...for the great minds.


Now if I could only get ATS onboard and link my Google Earth on their site

Admire, Harte, Marduk (if interested) & those interested could help finish recreate the NazCAD Blueprints


To explain all of Giza, Nazca has separate diagrams on their own yet to be recreated in color
(such as this finished example showing a triangle on the end *pyramid*
and the 3 Causeways plus Sphinx location)



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Byrd
The center star is the dimmest of the three, even to the naked eye: cas.sdss.org...

Actually, Byrd, that's incorrect. The brighter a star appears, the lower its' magnitude is. Alnilam (the center star in Orion's belt) has an apparent magnitude of 1.69, making it brighter than both Alnitak (1.77) and Mintaka (2.23). As a further point of reference, our sun has an apparent magnitude of -26.8.


Argh. Major brain failure, here! Thanks for the correction!



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: AquarianTrumpet
Interestingly Orion's declination starts at 58 degrees..5+8=13


Here's the problem, though... "degrees" is something invented by humans in the last few centuries. If we'd decided to divide the sky by a different number (400 instead of 360 or 200, or 600) then Orion's declination wouldn't be "58 degrees."

Things you have not explained:
* it took around 100 years (perhaps more) to construct the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx
* it's a pretty busy site with a lot of things on it including other pyramids
* we have Egyptian calculations from about 500 years later. There's no 360 degrees, but there's 22/7ths used for Pi.
* why they buried people in this "blueprint"
* the Nazca culture (that did the lines) emerged 3,000 years after the pyramids were built (500-800 AD) - why would they make a "blueprint" of something that had been constructed 3,000 years before by a culture that was long dead by the time they arose?



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd


Here's the problem, though... "degrees" is something invented by humans in the last few centuries. If we'd decided to divide the sky by a different number (400 instead of 360 or 200, or 600) then Orion's declination wouldn't be "58 degrees."


Hmmm, you are not having a great day today Byrd, the Sumerians were responsible for that one

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd


Here's the problem, though... "degrees" is something invented by humans in the last few centuries. If we'd decided to divide the sky by a different number (400 instead of 360 or 200, or 600) then Orion's declination wouldn't be "58 degrees."

Things you have not explained:
* it took around 100 years (perhaps more) to construct the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx
* it's a pretty busy site with a lot of things on it including other pyramids
* we have Egyptian calculations from about 500 years later. There's no 360 degrees, but there's 22/7ths used for Pi.
* why they buried people in this "blueprint"
* the Nazca culture (that did the lines) emerged 3,000 years after the pyramids were built (500-800 AD) - why would they make a "blueprint" of something that had been constructed 3,000 years before by a culture that was long dead by the time they arose?


From what Nazca is showing as G1's blueprints then or history is wrong and the Nazcan's aren't responsible for creating this blueprint. As certain sections can be seen from the hill and mountain tops - the Nazcan's are likely the ones responsible for the myth of them being a religious ceremonial grounds and why we find they're remains buried there with tokens of ceremonial offerings.

Math - hmm..no real answer to that one.

Now the age to the Great Pyramid.
My next video to be released soon has diagrams revealing two locations within the G1 not yet known about.
Yes the blueprints reveal how to locate these areas.
Hopefully the new Egyptian minister is serious about learning whats behind his sonar scan as the eastern scan revealed an anomaly very close to one of the areas I will be showing in the next video.

If this ever becomes recognised - one of the locations may just reveal G1's original build date.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Marduk

originally posted by: Byrd


Here's the problem, though... "degrees" is something invented by humans in the last few centuries. If we'd decided to divide the sky by a different number (400 instead of 360 or 200, or 600) then Orion's declination wouldn't be "58 degrees."


Hmmm, you are not having a great day today Byrd, the Sumerians were responsible for that one


Lets have some fun with this I like math.First the reason we have 360 degrees is its based off of Babylon and there base 60 numerical system. Might interest you to know the British used 400 in there military. Then there is radian based on pi. And then there is pi radians also. And Egyptians had nothing like degrees of a circle they used squares to measure a circle much more complicated and never really used if you know pi but you'll get similar answers.



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