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originally posted by: Raggedyman
Number 2
It's a spiritual book, it's not pro war, pro politics, pro slavery, anti gay or whatever you want it to be.
You can't quote mine it, well you can but you miss the teaching
You can't apply real world understanding to its teachings because it's spiritual, speaking to Christians
originally posted by: Raggedyman
I just can't believe the nonsense I read from atheists and some Christians on this forum
The issue is the bible, specifically the New Testament and the spin people place on ts teachings to pervert it's message
Number 1
It is written to Christians, it's not written to non believers.
If you don't believe, that's fine, please don't.
Number 2
It's a spiritual book, it's not pro war, pro politics, pro slavery, anti gay or whatever you want it to be.
You can't quote mine it, well you can but you miss the teaching
You can't apply real world understanding to its teachings because it's spiritual, speaking to Christians
I believe there are people who are trying to force the bible on people, people who are not Christian and not spiritual, that can't work.
Also you can not apply a secular understanding without having the spiritual understanding.
I can't understand how secularists read the bible in a non spiritual context, then complain that it is telling them all crazy stuff.
It's spiritual and it's not addressing you
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Klassified
Of course you believe that Klass..
I'm not surprised though, since you're not a true Atheist!
I rebuke thee!
Mathew 15
15 Some Pharisees and some teachers of the law came from Jerusalem to see Jesus. They asked, 2 “Why don’t your disciples obey what the elders teach? Your disciples don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
3 Jesus replied, “And why don’t you obey God’s command? You would rather follow your own teachings! 4 God said, ‘Honor your father and mother.’ (Exodus 20:12; Deuteronomy 5:16) He also said, ‘Anyone who asks for bad things to happen to their father or mother must be put to death.’ (Exodus 21:17; Leviticus 20:9) 5 But suppose people have something that might be used to help their parents. You allow them to say it is instead ‘a gift set apart for God.’ 6 So they do not need to honor their father or mother with their gift. You make the word of God useless in order to follow your own teachings. 7 You pretenders! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you. He said,
8 “ ‘These people honor me by what they say.
But their hearts are far away from me.
9 Their worship doesn’t mean anything to me.
They teach nothing but human rules.’ ” (Isaiah 29:13)
10 Jesus called the crowd to him. He said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not make them ‘unclean.’ It’s what comes out of their mouth that makes them ‘unclean.’ ”
12 Then the disciples came to him. They asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were angry when they heard this?”
13 Jesus replied, “They are plants that my Father in heaven has not planted. They will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave the Pharisees. They are blind guides. If one blind person leads another blind person, both of them will fall into a pit.”
15 Peter said, “Explain this to us.”
16 “Don’t you understand yet?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see? Everything that enters the mouth goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body. 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart. Those are the things that make someone ‘unclean.’ 19 Evil thoughts come out of a person’s heart. So do murder, adultery, and other sexual sins. And so do stealing, false witness, and telling lies about others. 20 Those are the things that make you ‘unclean.’ But eating without washing your hands does not make you ‘unclean.’ ”
Number 1 It is written to Christians, it's not written to non believers. If you don't believe, that's fine, please don't. Text
Number 2 It's a spiritual book, it's not pro war, pro politics, pro slavery, anti gay or whatever you want it to be. You can't quote mine it, well you can but you miss the teaching You can't apply real world understanding to its teachings because it's spiritual, speaking to Christians
You know, IF Christians didn't tell people the bible is meant to be taken literally... or the whole "every word is from God" shtick... secularist wouldn't attempt to read it in such a fashion
In any case non religious people seem to know more about the bible then religionists do anyways
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Akragon
You know, IF Christians didn't tell people the bible is meant to be taken literally... or the whole "every word is from God" shtick... secularist wouldn't attempt to read it in such a fashion
In any case non religious people seem to know more about the bible then religionists do anyways
I feel like you comments are exactly why the OP made this thread
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
Let the Bible define itself. It is the Word of God and the Mind of Christ. Don't believe in God? Don't want to know Christ? Then don't concern yourself with the Bible.