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Dinosaur with preserved tail feathers and skin tightens linkages between dinosaurs and birds

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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 01:58 PM
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An undergraduate University of Alberta paleontology student has discovered an Ornithomimus dinosaur with preserved tail feathers and soft tissue. The discovery is shedding light on the convergent evolution of these dinosaurs with ostriches and emus relating to thermoregulation and is also tightening the linkages between dinosaurs and modern birds.

Ornithomimus dinosaur with preserved tail feathers and skin tightens linkages between dinosaurs and birds



This is interesting because I always hear that birds are descendants of dinosaurs and some artists depict dinosaurs as feathered. But here is an example where a dinosaur was found fossilized with its feathers intact! Apparently there are three specimens like this of the Ornithomimus in the world. Some people have said that birds and dinosaurs are not related, but this goes to show there is evidence that they are wrong.

This dinosaur is possibly related to the ostrich or emu. It was covered with feathers all over its body and had wings that it did not use to fly, but used for purposes such as mating.


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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:00 PM
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Go on Orni with your bad self and shake them tail feathers!


I'm shaking mine.

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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:03 PM
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I thought they found the link between dinosaurs and birds years ago? Or is this just another confirmation of that? Also remember the experiments done on chicken eggs. Experimenting with the genetics of it to give it teeth, long tail and generally look more dinosaur like.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

I think this is just another confirmation of that, although this is the first time I have heard of a feathered dinosaur fossil being found, they have apparently been found in the past. I had always thought that they had not found any of them before until I read this article.
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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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What are the chances of bird feathers being near what we are calling a dinosaur?

That never seems to make It into the deciding factors when identifying a feathered dino.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

Paraphrasing from the article but..

"it was not until the mid-1990s that non-avian dinosaur fossils were discovered with clearly preserved feathers"

From this wiki page.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: TerryDon79

I think this is just another confirmation of that, although this is the first time I have heard of a feathered dinosaur fossil being found, they have apparently been found in the past. I had always thought that they had not found any of them before until I read this article.


I think that had a fossil of an Archaeopteryx

Here you go:


Strange, I don't see the pic I posted.


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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

It's a chicken! A giant chicken!

Run for the hills!



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

Good find darkbake s&f when i bring this subject up with some people they laugh and say don't be silly




posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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My ex-girlfriend likes to wear feathers in her hair, for the sake of future evolutionists everywhere... I sure hope she doesn't fall into a tar pit.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
My ex-girlfriend likes to wear feathers in her hair, for the sake of future evolutionists everywhere... I sure hope she doesn't fall into a tar pit.


When i used to refer to my ex gf as THE BIRD she would say so do i peck for worms then


Start throwing old shoe laces at her



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Bone75
For the sake of humanity, I hope you do!


"Evolutionists"?

Really?

Anyway, there is plenty of evidence for feathered dinosaurs:

Melanosome evolution indicates a key physiological shift within feathered dinosaurs


We find that in the lineage leading to birds, the observed increase in the diversity of melanosome morphologies appears abruptly, near the origin of pinnate feathers in maniraptoran dinosaurs. Similarly, mammals show an increased diversity of melanosome form compared to all ectothermic amniotes. In these two clades, mammals and maniraptoran dinosaurs including birds, melanosome form and colour are linked and colour reconstruction may be possible. By contrast, melanosomes in lizard, turtle and crocodilian skin, as well as the archosaurian filamentous body coverings (dinosaur ‘protofeathers’ and pterosaur ‘pycnofibres’), show a limited diversity of form that is uncorrelated with colour in extant taxa.


A Jurassic ornithischian dinosaur from Siberia with both feathers and scales


Middle Jurassic to Early Cretaceous deposits from northeastern China have yielded varied theropod dinosaurs bearing feathers. Filamentous integumentary structures have also been described in ornithischian dinosaurs, but whether these filaments can be regarded as part of the evolutionary lineage toward feathers remains controversial. Here we describe a new basal neornithischian dinosaur from the Jurassic of Siberia with small scales around the distal hindlimb, larger imbricated scales around the tail, monofilaments around the head and the thorax, and more complex featherlike structures around the humerus, the femur, and the tibia. The discovery of these branched integumentary structures outside theropods suggests that featherlike structures coexisted with scales and were potentially widespread among the entire dinosaur clade; feathers may thus have been present in the earliest dinosaurs.


Dinosaur Evolution: Feathers Up for Selection


After nearly one and half century of study and debate on whether extant birds are descendants of dinosaurs, paleontologists now generally agree that all birds are derived from a group of small-sized theropods (a suborder of bipedal saurischian or ‘lizard-hipped’ dinosaurs). In the past two decades, paleontology has also made remarkable progress in understanding of the origin and early evolution of bird feathers. Since the first report of proto-feathers from the theropod dinosaur Sinosauropteryx [1], diverse types of feathers in dinosaurs, including theropods and ornithischians, (one of the two basic divisions of dinosaurs, the ‘bird-hipped’ dinosaurs) have been reported mainly from the Early Cretaceous (about 120 million years ago) but also Middle-Late Jurassic (about 160 million years ago) deposits in northeastern China that have tremendously improved our understanding of the evolutionary transition from dinosaur to bird


Dinosaur color vision and the evolution of feathers


The first feathers that evolved in early dinosaurs had a simple hairlike structure and probably served to insulate the body. How did these simple protofeathers evolve into the more complex feathers found in today's birds? In a Perspective, Koschowitz et al. argue that dinosaur color vision played a key role in this evolution. Dinosaur color vision, like that of birds, is likely to have been superior to that of humans. The evolution of complex feathers would have enabled color signaling; for example, during sexual selection.


Google Scholar is a great resource for cutting out most of the Creationist chaff and getting to the real Science.
I recommend using it if you are tired of having to manually remove god-bothering pseudoscience.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

S&F cool find, wish the source form OP had a pic though



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: aorAki

That is a whole lot of conjecture.

There are of coarse other explanations that do not take as much conjecture.

Today we already have such feathered serpents roaming around.

So feathers and big bones does not mean dino.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick

Paleontologists can compare the bone structure of the dinosaurs in question with other dinosaurs in order to find out which they are related to and how. There is science behind it - if they weren't dinosaur bones they were dealing with, they would know.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

I understand the process enough to know that it makes sense.

At the same time it is not the only route of explanations and closing the door to thought when based on conjecture is very dangerous to knowledge.



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: aorAki
a reply to: Bone75
For the sake of humanity, I hope you do!


But then they would think they discovered a new species due to my freakishly large penis.



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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

Soon they will report that they actually discovered "Old McDonald's Farm".. the original... with bird-dinos instead of farm animals
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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: aorAki
a reply to: Bone75
For the sake of humanity, I hope you do!


But then they would think they discovered a new species due to my freakishly large penis.
do i pck for worms then o never mind







That is what i wanted to say in my last post but the t&c her might choke you



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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Zoos should take the lead and rename their Bird Houses something like "Bird/Dinosaur House"



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