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originally posted by: Sigismundus
a reply to: ChesterJohn
You wrote QUOTE "Jesus said to her it was not fit to give the food of the children (Israel) to the Dogs. she was a female what term would you call a female dog? You got it. But he said it politely though because God would not use vulgar speech. " UNQUOTE
I'm not sure what you mean by vulgar speech. His reference to gentiles (ha Goyim) as 'dogs' unfit to eat the children's bread shows that he harboured the same prejudice as many Zionists today who still hold to the outdated notion of the 'chosen people' or 'master race' where one group is superior to another (us v. them).
I do not think there was anything polite in his exchange with the Syro-Phonecian gentile woman who even called him 'son of David' in her entreaties for a healing for her daughter...moreover he seems to have healed her begrudgingly...at least that is what Matthew chapter 15 seems to be saying in all those Greek words placed into the mouth of R. Yehoshua bar Yosef - who spoke Galilean Aramaic, not Greek.
At any rate, his interest seems to be the re-gathering of the lost sheep of the house of Yisro'el not any interest in saving gentiles.
This explainis why so many modern Christians today leave passages like this out of their study groups...
the text clearly states they lied to the Holy Ghost/God.
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
But no where was the motive of their death that of inducing fear into the church
And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: 5StarOracle
The common purse they had in the early days after Christs Ascension into heaven soon ran dry and the reason for that is those who believed were no longer working, used all their savings, sold all their possessions and there was no new income coming in.
Everybody of the common purse eventually became a receiver.
that common purse would have been fine if Christ had returned as they thought he would. Once they realized he was not coming back immediately they all might have felt they were a little over zealous in giving all they had. As I mentioned there was no command for them to sell everything and give all to the early church.