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1 Peter 2
13 Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.
Romans 13
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Revelation 6
3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” 4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.
Revelation 17
14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.
Ezekiel 36
24 For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God.
I would like to throw out there that I think the bible was written only by man because there is no information in it beyond the imagination and current knowledge of man at that time .
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Isurrender73
But it says obey authority whether it's the emperor or governor, giving the "authorities" personhood. A piece of paper is not a person.
It's clearly talking about people, not ideals.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Isurrender73
So go to Washington and present a bill and pass it. If you can't do that then you have authorities who are over you still. If the authorities pass a bill, it is God's will because they were instituted by God. That is what these passages heavily imply. If you rebel against the authorities, those who pass the bills and laws, then you will be brought into God's judgement.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Holy Wars
Why was Christianity a central reason for Rome's transition into the even more powerful Byzantine Empire? Because its book is a war manifesto conjured up by those in power to make the peasants complacent toward their wars and genocides. Only we can make this world a better place, no one is going to fix it for us.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1Jesus isn't coming back, that's only an excuse for those who wage war to keep fighting them. The authorities are not God's servants, and if they are then God is sadistic. So let's go ahead and realize that the bible endorses those in power waging war indefinitely, something those in power are just fine with.
Thanks for reading.
originally posted by: Isurrender73
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Isurrender73
But it says obey authority whether it's the emperor or governor, giving the "authorities" personhood. A piece of paper is not a person.
It's clearly talking about people, not ideals.
The elected representatives who committed treason and international war crimes should fear their government. "We the People should be feared".
I am the government.