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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest
Consider that idea eh...
Jesus wasn't all for everything in the OT... its quite possible the writers of the NT left things out so they would line up with said Old books according to their ideas
The later church ended up destroying the gnostic texts and murdering those who disagreed with them because they were powerful writings and had an influence over those who could understand them
Makes ya think
Gen 2:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 2:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Its the Knowledge of Good and Evil that darkend our hearts, and Jesus is the light, so did He lnow Good and Evil. I don't think He had darkeness in His heart.
So was God being sarcastic in Gen 2:22? If so, it would explain why the Law was based on satire.
I get the satire, cuz the Knowledge of Good and Evil doesn't open your eyes, it darkens the heart. So God must have been using sarcasm.
I know you don't believe OT is God's word, but Jesus did quote Psalm 82. So explain that. Was He lending creedence to Psalm 82 or was He being sarcastic?
I believe Adam and Eve were created sinless, but they were also neutral. Thus was for a reason. They could either grow on God's word or on the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
22 And the LORD God said, BEHOLD, THE MAN IS BECOME LIKE ONE OF US, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: cooperton
Where is the door that the man and spider imaged?
Where are these words that I see and write?
My words are images of my awareness, (word/image/body/Son)
my awareness is of my spirit, (awareness/translator/soul/Father)
my spirit, my will, is to show you truth. (spirit/will/desire/Holy Ghost)
My words lead you to my awareness of my spirit. My words are my awareness of my spirit - they are what I see in my spirit - they are my spirit - my spirit is to write these words to you. My spirit, as I see it, is the will to write these very words to you, and that is what you are seeing now, as you read these words (my spirit). I have given you my body, these words / the image of my awareness, so that by eating, you will see / have life / have awareness [of the spirit].
Like a gift being the image of someone's will to give to you, as they have seen their will and translated it, to truly see the gift, you must see their spirit, which their awareness is of: which is their love for you (hopefully).
We have to stop thinking of physicality like it is a shell to forces, or that it is objects with forces within them, or round about them, and start thinking of physicality like it is will structured by awareness - it is determined will - THEN we can know Father and his kingdom (by knowing the awareness / by seeing his will). If we cannot do this, if we cannot see his will, then we cannot know him nor do his will for us...
you have to find out that part for yourself.
originally posted by: cooperton
So, by adhering to truth, and removing all falsehood, the path is revealed...
The intention is love, but it also goes deeper than that. I can grasp the bigger picture, but applying it to the present is difficult, because I feel overwhelmed by the options. I have seen what I knew to be Spirit, and the Heavenly realm where the first was last and the last were first and everything was revealed, but I fell down to lower consciousness (will) due to sinful behavior, and have been struggling to return ever since. I am eager to pursue the next step, but I have trouble elucidating it.