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originally posted by: stormcell
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: zilebeliveunknown
Of course ISIS are in Egypt, or more specifically insurgents affiliated with ISIS.
Are we ignoring the fact that the pilot reported a technical failure and requested to land at the nearest airport?
What caused that technical failure? If one engine stopped working, that could be contaminated fuel, a bird strike, poor maintenance, or a missile. That would also be possible if two engines stopped working. Only analysis of the wreckage will say for sure.
According to Egypt's security forces, as cited by Reuters, a technical fault was to blame for the crash.
Search and rescue teams are finding bodies in a radius of up to 5km (3.1 miles) from the crash site. Approximately 150, some burnt, have been pulled out of the wreckage so far.
The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.
That a321 must have been really heavy. I remember a flight with a full a321 from ZRH to CAI with max TOW, max LW and being just able to squeeze in between the min fuel for a flight planning with good weather in CAI and decision point planning. Now SSH to LED is even 30% farther. I wonder what kind of planning they used but anyhow I think the Plane was operating really at max tow. This puts maximum strain onto the engines (of course, they are able to handle that) but also makes handling technical malfunctions more difficult.
Engine problems unlikely to result in impact from high altitude.
By Joannes Sambuccus on Saturday, Oct 31st 2015 10:51Z
"Usual" kinds of engine problems experienced at high altitude (~9km) should not lead to impact. Even if both powerplants quit, Airbus can double as a soarplane very well. An A330 holds the record for silent flight, which glided over 120km to reach the Azores.
On the other hand, if an engine explosively failed shortly after pilots reported techs problem, that could lead to mid-air disintegration of the airframe, explaining why the wreckage came down in bits and pieces.
By Coronado on Saturday, Oct 31st 2015 10:18Z
I've noticed that the A321 involved had a tailstrike when it operated for MEA in 16 November 2001.
I also eard that they found the debris field and that the A321 didn't came in one piece...we could be having something similar to what happened with China Airlines Boeing 747 B18255, that had a decompression explosion after having a tailstrike in 1980, in Hong-Kong.
Just my two cents.
Agence France-Presse @AFP 18m18 minutes ago
#BREAKING Islamic State group in Egypt claims it downed Russian airliner
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The AFP is reporting that an ISIS group is claiming responsibility for the downing of Russian flight 9268 in Egypt. A statement from the group read “The soldiers of the caliphate succeeded in bringing down a Russian plane in Sinai.”
All 224 people are thought to have perished onboard Metrojet Flight 9268 which crashed 23 minutes into its journey from Egypt to Russia. The crash happened in the Sinai Peninsula.
Terrorism expert Muhanad Seloom tweeted that the claims made by ISIS were “very unlikely” to be true. Meanwhile, i24 reporter Anna Ahronheim tweets that an ISIS statement on the downing of the plane made specific references to Russian forces in Syria. She adds that no groups in the Sinai region are thought to have Man-portable air-defense systems that would be necessary to shoot down a plane from that altitude.
She adds that no groups in the Sinai region are thought to have Man-portable air-defense systems that would be necessary to shoot down a plane from that altitude.