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originally posted by: TamtammyMacx
It's not necessarily all about education. Last week they reported millions of people with bachelor degrees can't find work. I was visiting in Colorado recently. They couldn't keep teachers because the housing was so expensive. It was like a revolving door there. Where I used to work they even outsourced the mechanical and design engineering jobs to India. Then after the powers to be decimated the workforce and community, they are now running radio commercials for state funding because the businesses can't find skilled workers.
It seems like everything is an attack on the workforce nowadays. I think they've evolved the workforce into the revolving door workforce to drive down wages even further. There are companies that have random drug testing throughout employment. If you fail for any reason. Your fired. There are over 400 over-the-counter products that will cause you to fail a drug test. Educated yourself and beware.
I talked to a friend that said they are short staffed because they can't find anyone that can pass the drug test?
It seems like the end formuala is to drive down wages at all cost.
originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
a reply to: JesseVentura
Jesse Ventura: "If you work a 40 hour work week, you should not be subsidized by the government, no matter what you do."
So, an unskilled person, with limited education, should make the same (or nearly the same) as an educated pencil pusher (to use your words)?
Jesse Ventura: "Raise the minimum wage, and lower the maximum wage, and you might find utopia."
So let's remove incentives for working hard at an education to achieve a higher level of income, and reward the uninspired with a "living wage" at the expense of private industry.
While I tend to lean liberal in many social policies, such a statement is beyond liberal and well into the intensely socialist.
We don't have a wage problem in this country.
I'll say it again: we don't have a wage problem in this country.
We have an education problem.
If people are getting married, having families, and can't find the job that earns enough to support their family, it's not society's responsibility to pay them more. It's society's responsibility to ensure they're educated for the job that can support their family.
This problem won't be solved by raising the minimum wage. The result would be a tickle-up, requiring all wages to go up, and the new normal will be no different than it is now.
The only solution is education. But politicians wanting to raise the minimum wage plays better, and gets cheers from doe-eyed young liberals looking for quick fixes.
originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
No one is suggesting a PhD.
Right now, news about corporate recruiters having a hard time finding qualified (educated) candidates for entry-level corporate jobs in tech startups, media, advertising, etc. is not difficult to find. It's a growing problem across corporate America -- a lack of candidates.
I'm going to be unfashionably harsh here: if you're unable to attain employment beyond minimum wage jobs, then you should not be starting a family.
originally posted by: Drinking
Raising the minimum wage doesn't lift those at the MW up, it just forces those above it down.
The idea isn't to lift Terry out of poverty so Mike can be in poverty.
The idea is to lift Terry and Mike out of poverty.
Only way for that to happen is more pay or more spending power from their pay.
If I make $15 an hour, and you make $7.50 and they raise the MW to $15 im now at poverty level where I was at double it before.
originally posted by: NewzNose
I think we have an entitlement crisis in this country, not a wage crises. People expect to start at a higher pay wage and there is virtually no "starting" position. They don't want to work for the wage, they just expect it paid from day one.
We've become a lazy, entitled, excuse making society.
originally posted by: InTheLight
How and when do we start believing workers should be considered valuable contributors to our society and economy (such that it is) and compensate them accordingly?
originally posted by: Sparkymedic
Raising the minimum wage is beyond mindlessly stupid. If the minimum wage goes up, would that not just pave the way for all of the things you need/ want to just skyrocket in price...seeing as, ya know...it costs more to provide the goods or services?