September 2015 Presentation by Steven Greer

I'm putting this in Skunk Works because my focus is not on aliens or UFOs. It is on technology.

I am of the opinion that those who are interested in advanced technology are wasting their time if they try to find it in the mainstream.

One must look to alternative sources.

The following is a recording of a webinar of a conference in London that took place September 15, 2015 (CE = Close Encounters):

Published on Sep 20, 2015

You are invited to join Dr. Steven Greer- founder of the world-wide Disclosure movement and CE-5 Initiation and creator of "Sirius", the historic documentary- for an evening of amazing information on never -before heard revelations on briefings and contact initiatives in Europe.

These include:

- Briefings for European royal families and Government officials in the UK, Monaco, France, the Vatican and Liechtenstein

- Senior French Ministry of Defense and Intelligence initiatives for CE-5 contact events in France and never-before seen documents from the French Government- the most important UFO documents in existence!

- He will discuss the CE-5 Contact event in France with ET craft confirmed on radar over CE-5 Contact Site at over 200,000 kilometers per hour- and one that appeared partially materialized in the contact field

- The future of Disclosure and Contact in Europe and the world- and how you can play a key role in the beginning of a new civilization on earth!

www.youtube.com...

At 52:20, the subject of the fact that the United States mastered gravity control by 1954, according to Rick Foch, now deceased, who saw documents in a vault at the United States Naval Research Laboratory, comes up.

The NRL is a corporate research laboratory:

About NRL

NRL is the corporate research laboratory for the Navy and Marine Corps and conducts a broad program of scientific research, technology and advanced development. NRL has served the Navy and the nation for 90 years and continues to meet the complex technological challenges of today's world.

www.nrl.navy.mil...

And how much does it cost to get in the little party? Greer is a known hoaxer and scam artist. I wouldn't pay him to walk my dog, much less pay to listen to him ramble about aliens.
Oh dear Lord [ facepalm ] there's even a kid on Gofundme looking to get folks to contribute to his trip to see this.....lecture

Anything coming out of Greer's mouth is BS.

a reply to: ConnectDots

The question is if this advanced technology would be available, why not showing it? It would make potential enemies think twice and would be the price winning pony in the race of arms. Why keeping it secret?

a reply to: ConnectDots

IMO, Dr. Greer has tainted his credibility as a serious "disclosure" seeker in his incessant need for kudos and annoying habit of name-dropping at every opportunity. This murks the waters of one understanding his true intent and drive.

He isn't "just a country doctor" . He charges a price for his audience, both in and out in the field.

That being said, his witness list is impressive and worth keeping in consideration.

a reply to: NewzNose

Do you believe or disbelieve the allegation that the United States had mastered gravity control by 1954, as stated in the OP?

a reply to: ConnectDots

I believe the US government has not only mastered gravity control likely before 1954, they have mastered intentionally using their own unsuspecting citizens in mass as test dummies for various experiments throughout the years and still ongoing today.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

maybe, but the man is making all kinds of cash for it, how much do you make for spreading your BS?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
I am of the opinion that those who are interested in advanced technology are wasting their time if they try to find it in the mainstream.

The wonders and potentials of advanced technology, unfortunately, cannot be discussed on ATS in the Science and Technology forum, where the subject belongs.

This is because of the ridicule factor which has consumed incredible time and energy here because of the arrogance of mainstream scientists, engineers, and academics who are free to use the logical fallacy of ridicule to shut up challengers to the status quo - a status quo that these scientists, engineers, and academics are protecting for personal reasons.

This needs to stop, for the good of us all.

Steven Greer the person is not the subject of this thread.

The subject of this thread is advanced technology, such as gravity control. Other advanced technologies would be free energy and energy medicine. These are the peaceful applications for true physics - those laws that are only acknowledged and understood in black projects.

yea Greer is not credible 'now'... whereas he was before...?!

yea we mastered gravity shortly after we first took flight... piss off

No thanks I've already reached my bull # quota for the year.

a reply to: ConnectDots

You are invited to join Dr. Steven Greer- founder of the world-wide Disclosure movement and CE-5 Initiation and creator of "Sirius", the historic documentary-

Historic documentary ?


Haven't watched the video because Steve Greer , he's an habitual liar and a leach on the UFO subject , his "historic documentary" was nothing more than a rehash of disclosure project material ego stroking from the man himself , more fool the suckers who paid for it to be made.

His claims of free energy devices are just another money making sham.

The criticism I have of Seaspower, Aero2012 and The Orion Project is simply that one thing seems to have “morphed” into the next, and we find no examples of technology that any of these initiatives have either introduced into general use, or even evaluated and discounted.

Critically, as far as I have been able to determine, nowhere on the Aero2012 website does it mention or describe why or how the Seaspower initiative have failed and neither are the results of any investment of time and research analysed or discussed. Similarly, on the Orion Project Website, we can find no analysis or discussion of the results of Aero2012’s - or its own - projects or initiatives and why they failed or why they were successful (if they were successful).

Some signs on the Orion Project’s website are slightly more interesting, as they do list some specific areas of research, although details of any active projects are decidedly sketchy.

The bottom line is, then, that after 7 years, none of the initiatives that Steven Greer has been involved with have produced any results that have been disclosed to the public. There is no information about projects undertaken, no names of people involved in them (apart from those listed as advisors) and there is no list of specific projects that are being worked on or any information on timescales.
www.checktheevidence.co.uk...

Steven Greer the person is not the subject of this thread.

Your thread title says different.

originally posted by: gortex
Your thread title says different.

Hopefully, truth-seekers will read the OP instead of simply focusing on the title and then posting knee-jerk reactions based on their personal opinion of the presenter at a conference.

a reply to: ConnectDots

If you post with a title that contains a name such as Steve Greer then it's guaranteed you will get replies that reflect opinions of the person.
Knee jerk ? , the fact is Steve Greer is a flimflam man , most people know that so why would anyone take what he says in the video as anything other than more of the same.

A serious thread about Alternative Technology really shouldn't feature Steve Greer.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
The NRL is a corporate research laboratory:

About NRL

NRL is the corporate research laboratory for the Navy and Marine Corps and conducts a broad program of scientific research, technology and advanced development. NRL has served the Navy and the nation for 90 years and continues to meet the complex technological challenges of today's world.

www.nrl.navy.mil...

The word "corporate," in the context of that dot mil website, is referring to a consolidation of previously existing facilities.

However, it may have a double-meaning. Profit-seeking corporations are running things, not elected governments.

a reply to: ConnectDots

LOL.

Greer talks about how important it is for people working on free energy to release their information and knowledge in an open source forum so its freely available for everyone.

Also how his projects has offered 100K to anyone who come forward but with the condition that they give it away for free.

Then goes and charge people for his service which he claims he wants everyone to do in case the gov't shuts hime down.

Then says he has the documentation to make a free unity machine that he paid a former gov't employee to make in his vault. But asks for 10 Million dollars to start a lab to get it to work.

If he has the documentation and is wanting everyone to open source their free energy device why doesn't he do the same and release the document?


Wow the B$ is strong on this one.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
At 52:20, the subject of the fact that the United States mastered gravity control by 1954, according to Rick Foch, now deceased, who saw documents in a vault at the United States Naval Research Laboratory, comes up.

More than likely, gravity control is accomplished via. an electro-magnetic gravitic system.

Essentially, the electric universe model is correct. My understanding is that torsion physics needs to be added to it, however.

I used to be a fan of Greer until he started trying to pass of bugs off as ufo orbs and charging thousands for people to stand in empty fields.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
. . . documents in a vault at the United States Naval Research Laboratory . . .

When one is on a quest for truth regarding true physics in a world where the powers that be assassinate people who sufficiently challenge their monopoly on the power of knowledge/control, one must look to sources outside the mainstream media and academia.

A search for “documents in the vault at the naval research lab” brought up the book Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion: Tesla, UFOs and Classified Aerospace Technology by Paul A. LaViolette, Ph.D., and the subject matter quoted was in regard to T.Townsend Brown:



TT Brown's daughter appeared at the Secret Space Program Conference 2014:

3:50 in...misanthropic money whore? Thy name is Greer.