Ben Carson is a Creationist

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Great OP Buzzy!

Carson is an amazingly ignorant man.

He may have been a great doctor, good for him, but that doesn’t mean he is qualified to be a president or anything else for that matter

He has shown utter ignorance and stupidity and makes a mockery of the presidential race more than it already is.

He also has nil understanding of rudimentary economics, international affairs and the constitution.

It’s only in the ignorant field of the GOP voters could such an ignoramus as he get this far

This guy makes Sarah Palin seem like a scholar in comparison

a reply to: amazing

Fair point.

I do not feel that carson is anti science. Do you?

I think he just sees through much of the bs that surrounds the field as a whole.

a reply to: murphy22

Tolerance is one thing. I can tolerate people like Ben Carson. But, I can't see a person who believes that Satan is responsible to planting fossils to fool humanity and deceive humans into believing the theory of evolutionary processes, as President of the United States of America.

Nope!

a reply to: Willtell

I think you are wrong but the truth of it really is who a president surrounds himself with more than what he or she knows at any single point.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: amazing

Fair point.

I do not feel that carson is anti science. Do you?

I think he just sees through much of the bs that surrounds the field as a whole.

I mean I know he supports some science. He's a famous neurosurgeon, and by all accounts quite brilliant at it. What's more science than that? But some of his stuff that he believes in genesis six day literal creation and some things he's said about climate change, have me worried. Will he defund Nasa and some other stuff?

a reply to: windword

Ok your first point - No its not the only issue that matters. It actually seems to matter to you and the OP far more than it does myself.

Your second point - I think you misunderstood. What if your agnostic pres decides in office to adopt some religion?

Your third point - I never mentioned biblical morality. I am still waiting to see the humanist non religious creed that inspires "morality" . Better yet how can they justify morality or ethics (which are absolutes) while they deny the existence of absolutes and view those issues as relative and subjective?

I have no problem with a non politician running but Carson should at least do his homework.

Read a book, study.


Carson is so ignorant its hard to believe he isn't some kind of test candidate to determine the utter stupidity of the American people...that they would actually vote for one with such utter lack of basic understanding.


Ben Carson Reveals His Stupidity By Not Knowing How The Budget Or Debt Ceiling Work
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2016 Republican candidate Ben Carson, who political journalists keep telling you is so brilliant, doesn’t know what the debt ceiling is or how it works. Thus, it was pretty easy for him to vow never to raise it.

a reply to: Willtell

Well in defense of Carson although I am not one of his supporters I would have to say that apparently it doesn't seem to matter if people understand the debt ceiling because despite opposition it is continually raised. Always has.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

do you really believe balking at mainstream beliefs is a bad thing?

Not if the balker has good, salient points. I've been trying to point out in this thread just how the moderators at this spectacle of a "debate" (competing for ad dollars vs the World Series) are feeding the fires of sniping and sensationalist bullshat.

Pointing out how the 'candidates' are buying into the "reality-tv" crap, hook line sinker style, and letting themselves get all riled up. (Or should I say O'Reilled up?) Shouting one another down, literally pointing fingers and shouting, "BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU DID!" It's juvenile and ridiculous....and entertaining, for those of us who know how to discern the difference between honest intelligent "debate" and a bunch of Jerry-Springer type caricatures.

I think the "mainstream" beliefs of organized religion are definitely worthy of being balked against. In fact, it's hard for me to grasp why Bible-believing people who want to proselytize even come here at all.
Thanks for asking, though.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

Fiorina made the best case regarding the Debt Limit question.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: amazing

Fair point.

I do not feel that carson is anti science. Do you?

I think he just sees through much of the bs that surrounds the field as a whole.

I mean I know he supports some science. He's a famous neurosurgeon, and by all accounts quite brilliant at it. What's more science than that? But some of his stuff that he believes in genesis six day literal creation and some things he's said about climate change, have me worried. Will he defund Nasa and some other stuff?

No he has no plans to defund nasa and when faced with the six day question he has the same answer I do and that is if god said it then somehow there is truth in it even if we do not know how. That belief is not dangerous at all and only is really stating that we do not have enough info to refute the 6 days completely. It is found in the bible that gods days are not the same at a rate of like 1000 to one in some cases. That opens the door for different existences having time differences. There is nothing in the bible that defies logic but it can all defy logic depending on ones goals. I stick to the saying that anything is possible and slowly science sees that is true.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

Which is why we need someone like Bernie.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

If one is going to be president one should know these basic things


One doesn't have to know things like who is the president of this or that obscure country but the basic things if you're going to run for president and you don't take the time to study these things you're not really respecting the intelligence of the electorate.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

How is Bernie going to do anything about the debt ceiling? The cost of all of his plans require so much spending I don't see how he would be in favor of anything but funding his socialist policies and growing government which = debt. Unless his answer is an incredibly high tax rate but even then that would only be a drop in the bucket.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

He has a plan for all of it. Shifting money around, NOT BORROWING MORE.

a reply to: Willtell

These guys have staffers for that stuff. I mean I don't expect anyone who comes to D.C. as an outsider to have a complete grasp on the situation but the insiders are not doing anything any differently. I mean we have an entire political party that told its constituents that we have to pass bills to know what is in them.

a reply to: deadeyedick

There is nothing in the bible that defies logic

dick, really?

NOTHING that defies logic?

I am compassionate to your passion, but, dude - MOST of the Bible defies logic.....
unless one realizes it is a set of fables and metaphors.
Grimm's fairy tales a la church.

If he was the kind of brain surgeon he is a candidate…I doubt he was…then he would at least prepare to understand the issues


A staff member can’t give you understanding of nuanced issues

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

It does not defy my logic because like I said anything is possible.

Jill is anything possible or are you binding yourself with limitations?

The basic argument is can science create a rock?

Our knowledge comes usually from necessity.

So if we ever have the need and the time then nothing is impossible.

a reply to: Willtell

Just what special info about the debt ceiling do you feel is necessary to have in order to keep the country going?