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China not afraid of war with USA - Homeland invasion and occupation now possible!

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posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: StargateSG7



Even if you math panned out, the major difference is the amount of time each country has spent this type of money on their military. The US has nearly a half decade at spending at these levels, hence we have 10 active Nimitz class aircraft carriers and 8 active Wasp class assault carriers. All our current aircraft and hardware are beyond battle tested while China hasn't seen major conflict in nearly 40 years after the Sino-Vietnamese war and the one aircraft carrier they bought is still not capable of launching the heavier Chinese fighters.

Not trying to say my wang's bigger than your's, but my wang is bigger than yours

edit on 29-10-2015 by Bearack because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: StargateSG7
The problen is America thinks like America
Where even school yard fights have "rules".

China has no such restrictions. And as someone
Who has much familiarity with Sino-Han culture
As espoused within mid to high political and military circles, there is a pronounced hardcore
Attitude within those echelons of power... AND...
a whispered understanding that the rules of war
And military engagement WILL NOT be adhered
To AT ALL !!!

To put it mildly, China WILL play dirty!
Chemical weapons, bio-weapons, nukes,
Suicide bombers ... HUGE Waves of human and machine atttacks where EVERYTHING will be
Used to finally overwhelm American might
With wave-after-continuous-wave of incoming
People and Gear in a situation where
ASTRONOMICAL LOSSES will be allowed to absorbed to obtain the final goal of the
Invasion and the subsequent removal and Destruction of the American populace!

China is WILLING and can AFFORD to lose
over a BILLION PEOPLE to achieve its end
goals...AMERICA CANNOT !!!

And one more thing! Due to general economic
Success, America has become soft and pudgy
While MUCH of China is still Hard and Hungry
With a HUGE populace STILL WILLING to make
ENORMOUS SACRIFICES and, if necessary,
still willing to DIE for THE STATE !!!

Even the threat of American Nukes will NOT
Be enough to deter Chinese ambitions upon
The Homeland. There are enough military
Strategists and leaders that THINK that direct
Confrontation with the USA is the BEST future
Strategy and policy to increase Chinese territory
And natural resource holdings.

It's not a matter of IF but rather WHEN China
Will make its military moves. And as usual it
Will be a series of complete surprises to
American politicians and military leaders.
Unfortunately for the USA, China is NOT
like the Japan of December 7, 1941.

Its 20 times larger and much more lethal
And any military engagement will be truly
Overwhelming in scale and in its ferocity!!!

They will play a full blown KILL-EM-ALL and
Burn Everything to the Ground scenario which
America is just NOT prepared to contemplate!

It's a war we WILL LOSE unless the economic,
Educational and military systems within the
USA are fixed RIGHT BLOODY NOW !!!

Am I being dire? Heck Yeah !!!

Why? Because that is what WILL HAPPEN
If the USA is seen as being currently weak!
We really only have between 5 to 10 years
To get our tushes in gear and re-aquire
Economic, Educational and Military greatness
Before China becomes like the Visigoths of
1600 years ago suddenly rushing into a
weakened ROME to torch it down to the
ground and destroying its people down
to the last man, woman and child !!!!


Lol, BS , 100% BS!

The US has more combat vets alone than china has people in its entire military.

All of them active active reserve etc....

Think Vietnam, but urban.

Good luck to the idiots in China, because it is a non sequitor.

They have no chance.

Not even 1 in a billion, they have ZERO chance of invading and or occupying the US.

Your entire premise is dumb.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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The two countries will most likely EMP each other into the stone age. . . . .



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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I love that people claim to understand and know China sooooooooo well.

No one has ever heard of peoples war?

The Chinese military build up is almost purely for deterrence. A nation with "Demographic Certainty" simply wants to not have their plans squashed by warfare.

6 Million people in Siberia, lol. 7 Million people from China cross the border to farm every year from China and every year some stay behind to be wives and husbands, Mongolia isn't even an issue for China once Siberia "turns" all the "Stans" but Pakistan has Chinese Demographic certainty over time. Kazakhstan is HUGE and has only 17 Million people lol and most of them are Asian already Shanghi has 24 Million in one city... head West Canadian Asians represent a portion of the population similar to African Americans in number and we have an African American president...think about that for a moment. The US census predicts by 2065 the second largest group in the USA will be Asian. Caucasians at 170 Million Asians around 130-140 followed by Hispanics at 120... Australia will be Asian dominant not long after Canada the USA wont reach the next century without Asians being the dominant demographic either.

They are also upping things to a 2 child policy now too if you were wondering how they were going to fill the empty cities, in Africa and South America and every place else they literally are colonizing at the moment.

We build military bases that cost money to maintain, they build empty cities to fill with workers and took the cap off population growth with 1.5 Billion people already lol...

China is going to bomb what lol?

Not unless we make it happen to stop it by being xenophobes.

The thing is they already won by babies and buildings and they know it.

Frankly the future of the USA is in those Chinese and other Asian immigrants, we need them we need the kind of relationship with the East we have with the West and we'd still remain the center of the globe, but not if we fight it, America faces an issue that has nothing to do with "Fighting" we need to make nice and I don't think sometimes we know how to do that anymore.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Thats is IF th echinese can actually launch a ICBM without triggerring a NATO response to even send the EMP weapon. Which NORAD is protected against which in turn gives the US immediate strike options with its Subs and pacific fleets for china to get rekt. LEt alove the NUclear missiles we have in silos protected from the EMP weapons,and military weapons hardened against them specifically.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Thats is IF th echinese can actually launch a ICBM without triggerring a NATO response to even send the EMP weapon. Which NORAD is protected against which in turn gives the US immediate strike options with its Subs and pacific fleets for china to get rekt. LEt alove the NUclear missiles we have in silos protected from the EMP weapons,and military weapons hardened against them specifically.


Probably already in a stealth satellite or in a sleeper cell. . .

We most likely have stuff over there too!
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posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Ha! the only Baby in a box the Chinese have for us is a real Chinese baby girl with Millions just like her to follow.

Neutron Bombs aren't the only way to keep the cities intact and be rid of the culture that lives there.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: frugal
This is a ridiculous for the Chinese to consider. Most people in rural USA have multiple guns, and are proficient at using them. My neighbor starts shooting early every Saturday. My sister in law who is five feet carries one in her purse. We are probably the most dangerous country on the planet to think you would invade our space. Not going to happen. Better practice some respect OP.


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China could secretly build 500,000 drones in multiple places. Arm them and
put them in shipping containers then send them to the USA itself or Mexico
or the Carribbean islands and just wait until the right time to release them
all at once to bomb the major communications, power and water supply systems
of all the major cities ... ONLY A FEW CONTAINERS get checked EVER !!!!!

Once the major infrastructure is gone, China would be able to hunt
the US nuke subs and then kill-em dead! And then go after the mainland
nuclear missile silos after hiding smuggled drones NEAR major land-based
missile sites for years!

We wouldn't even have the CHANCE to launch a retaliatory attack.
Afterwards, China just bombs the USA back to the stone age with
wave after wave of HUGE commercial aircraft doing sortie after sortie
of dumping 50 gallon drums of flammable materials (i.e. CHEAP and
easy-to-make gas/napalm barrel bombs!) onto city after city and
all agricultural areas.

Within a four weeks of such all-out-warfare there would be NO USA LEFT !!!!!!!

If done done JUST BEFORE winter sets in, the cold and and lack of food
would kill off most survivors within three months and then ANY OTHER
survivors could be hunted and exterminated on an automated basis
using thermal imaging and simple drone-based gunnery from above!



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: StargateSG7

What a great plan, you are a veritable Dwight D. Eisenhower in your tactical brilliance.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: StargateSG7

What?

Are you even listening/reading to what you're saying/typing?

Five hundred thousand drones?

Commercial aircraft dropping 50 gal. drums on cities?

Really?

I guess we'd better surrender before it's too late...



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: seagull

The only thing he left out was driving on the interstate doing 40mph in the left lane with their blinker on.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: Drinking

The US has more combat vets alone than china has people in its entire military.

All of them active active reserve etc....

Think Vietnam, but urban.

Good luck to the idiots in China, because it is a non sequitor.

They have no chance.

Not even 1 in a billion, they have ZERO chance of invading and or occupying the US.

Your entire premise is dumb.


Ah, but the Chinese will have the Australians with them


www.abc.net.au...

Seriously, this is a typical ATS thread. There is more chance of Australia invading Scotland in December than any armed conflict occurring between China and America. Real Politiks aside.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Comedy comes in many forms.

As the entire premise is laughable, I'm probably pretty much done with this thread.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:04 PM
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China Ends Its One-Child Policy.

'And the number of the forces of the horsemen is two myriads of myriads, and I heard the number of them.'
(Revelations 9:16)



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:44 PM
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War for China, Russia, or the United States is only an exercise in suicide. When the nukes fly, it's all over for everyone, either immediately, or over a few months or year or two. All those 'Elites, TPTB' will inherit a world toxic beyond belief when the crawl out of their bunkers. Oh, and don't forget India and Pakistan....... and Iran and Israel.

At least that's my logical opinion. Do you see a flaw ?



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

We would respond with nukes,OURS hit the targets they are aimed at....reliably.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

Yeah, everyone would DIE.
We want to WIN,not die.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

We would respond with nukes,OURS hit the targets they are aimed at....reliably.


How do you know?

And anyway, what does it matter?

Given the way Americans were sure they would all die from radiation from Fukushima - that fear would be 100 fold if the US denoted a nuclear missile over China!!!!!



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: AndyMayhew

Because that would be SOP for a nuclear attack ,EMP or no, as HAS been the case for about 50 years.
Subs are standing BY now ,including YOURS.



posted on Oct, 29 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: StargateSG7

What?

Are you even listening/reading to what you're saying/typing?

Five hundred thousand drones?

Commercial aircraft dropping 50 gal. drums on cities?

Really?

I guess we'd better surrender before it's too late...


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They don't have to be BIG drones the size of Reapers but
just big enough to hold a few incendiary devices which
if targeted towards CRITICAL infrastructure ONLY, could
do a LOT of damage such as to critical Power Line and
Fibre Optic communications intersection points,
any oil/gas pipelines and water distribution pump
centres! From there, you use long-range LARGE drones
to do the major dirty work of clearing out entire cities
using mass-destruction incendiary devices and then use
all available commercial long-range aircraft (i.e. 747/777/767, etc)
to literally dump tens of thousands of 55 gallon drums of
gas/napalm onto multiple cities turning them in much
like Dresden 1945 !!!! Just repeat such sorties over
and over for weeks on end and that would just
DEVASTATE the country!

Chinese Special Forces could be smuggled into the USA
via shipping containers and wait it out for months if not years
near KNOWN missile silos to start a devastating attack
on the launch silo door systems which could be destroyed
using portable 100,000 PSI watercutters or 4000+ Degree
Thermite hole cutter technology and then dump a few
explosives down the resulting hole-cuts to disable
and destroy any land based missiles.

Portable MANPAD missile launchers could take out critical
airports, base fueling and repair infrastructure and personnel
quarters. It's severe out-of-the-box tactics BUT they ARE REAL
and COULD BE USED !!!! That means our infrastructure needs
to be GUARDED AND UPGRADED FROM SUCH TYPES OF ATTACKS!

The US Ballistic Missile submarines could be searched for and
found by using Satellite Radar to measure the amount of shaped
water uplift that occurs when a submarine glides through a given
thermocline layer. (i.e. an entire section of thermocline layer
water bulges up and down which can be measure on a minute
basis by sophisticated computer algorithms!) Then Hunter Killer
choppers just bomb the found subs to smithereens.

I know this all sounds shrill and over-the-top, but if someone
like ME can think of this type of stuff IMAGINE what a country
that has 5 times the population can do ?????????




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