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originally posted by: Seede
Only pointing out inconsistencies that's all. If one doesn't believe in use of tobacco then that also should be a consideration of that one demanding preference of employment. Chopping heads and honor killings are part and parcel of this very same religion, and yes in this U.S., and is never mentioned as offense by these very religious people who are offended by the alcohol. That was the comparative inference in my post as you very well understand. The only insanity is that of this religion to demand special privileges. All Muslims are Muslims least you need to be reminded.
You have to be more specific to get a complete answer. Are you talking about the commandments of Jesus or Moses?
Firstly you need to understand that Jesus never taught that all people were equal.
originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
It's already been explained. Your description of the cases is not what actually happened. It wasn't a cab driver denying a passenger with alcohol, and it wasn't a baker refusing a gay themed cake.
In one situation it is discrimination against a person. In the other, it is an object. Think about it.
If you support the baker refusing to bake a normal wedding cake (not gay themed) for a homosexual, then you must support the baker being able to deny inter-racial couples their cake as well.
originally posted by: stolencar18
In both situations it was people acting according to their own beliefs and that's what needs to be held up, unless harm was done to another. Not having a cake isn't harm.
Jesus taught us to TREAT people equally, not that they ARE equal. Jesus said to treat others as you want to be treated and not to judge them. The cake baker has gone against Jesus' teachings by not baking the cake. I was specific in my inquiry. I said I am looking for NEW TESTAMENT quotes, preferably from Jesus that go against homosexuality. The Leviticus argument holds no weight whatsoever since 90% of those commandments are ignored by Christians today.
The bold is an absurd generalization. You do realize that moderate Muslims far outnumber the radicals, right? To think all Muslims practice that is beyond silly.
You cannot judge all Muslims the same even though they are still in the Islamic mindset.