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originally posted by: Kromlech
What's HILARIOUS is the melodrama Atheists thrive on...
"OMG Christianity... WOE IS ME, I'M SCORNED... I DIDN'T SURVIVE A BIBLE CLASS, I BURST INTO FLAMES. OMG, he's wearing a cross, omg hiss hiss!!!" Next...
Yeah, you survived it, buttercup, but your guilty conscience didn't, hence you suing...
The "Establishment Clause" was intended to prevent any governmental endorsement or support of religion. While one might intuitively read this to mean that the clause was meant to preclude endorsement or support of some particular religion, it is important to note that the clause also prohibits the endorsement of religion generally over non-religion. As the Court noted in 1947, “A large proportion of the early settlers of this country came here from Europe to escape the bondage of laws which compelled them to support and attend government-favored churches.” Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1, 8 (1947).
originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: DelMarvel
Really..? Native peoples often worship God (the Creator or whatever,) as do many, many cultures around the world. There are many different outlooks of what God is exactly. That's why it is non-religious to say "The God of your understanding."
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
And I guarantee that if Christians were forced to attend Muslim-themed treatment centers where they had to submit to "Alah" in 6 out of 12 steps -- they'd be crying for the Establishment Clause too.
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Yep this pretty much needs to stop. Requiring people to attend religious programs or prayers or whatever?? Not acceptable.
An atheist who spent a year in a California prison for methamphetamine possession charges in 2007 was awarded nearly $2 million on Wednesday as part of a settlement related to a lawsuit claiming that his religious freedom was violated when he refused to participate in a court ordered rehab program with a religious spin.
In a case that has dragged on for seven years, Barry Hazle Jr. charged the state of California and a contractor with infringing on his religious freedoms by ordering him to spend 90 days in a rehab facility that required him to submit to a "higher power" as a part of its 12-step program.
Personally I don't have a problem with the choice given to attend a faith based treatment program, but being ordered to attend one? How long I wonder have officials being getting away with forcing this on people? We've heard kids being forced in schools and now this? And we hear non-stop about this so called persecution of christians on Fox news. Give me a break.