It's that time of year - Halloween experiment - Any volunteers?

a reply to: beansidhe

Damn I like you....

You have a healthy outlook and more realistic.

I have studied fasting techniques and what most people do not understand about fasting is they are concerned more about pain and starving and not eating at all which I totally disagree to, plus the benefits of fasting are endless. Proper fasting techniques are designed to realign the body, mind and spirit.........OK.... body and mind for the mental health experts but we are made of three similar to the trinity..... we are body, mind and spirit. And aligning these three can only come from fasting.... you will be much more clear in your thinking capabilities AND it is at this time when the body is detoxed that you can hear the voice of God.......OK too much ...... I will digress.....

Actually I would love for a university or private organization to fund my study so I can do a double blind study on this subject. I know for a FACT when the proper atmosphere (meaning my test requirements are met) and the proper subject a real manifestation can and will occur. I have seen them myself many times.

This controversy would end simply if the Vatican would release the thousand of tapes on this subject to be evaluated. There is sufficient proof but releasing it would cause sheer panic. Just think when the time comes and aliens show themselves..... the public will be reliving the days of 1938 when Orson Wells spoke of this fantasy on the radio and look how many freaked out and died!

And guess when these do appear? When they are being expelled! But before that numerous supernatural events occur. Some will go in spirit others in form and spirit and those are the ones I seek out to show as proof and like I said the Vatican has this on tape.

Have you ever seen stones and rocks rain inside a room? Falling from the ceiling? Can you explain this? The upper floors were checked.....no way......seen many times not once so how does this happen?

Real human blood dripping off all four walls. Most of the time the blood is O positive and no one who is living in the home is O positive.

I try to work with mental health specialist and believe me it is very hard. They protect their patients as if they own them. I can not recall how many times I have witnessed poor souls being fed massive amounts of drugs to keep them under control with NO other treatments as if they gave up on the patient BUT these are not the ones I seek out..... I look for the ones where medication does nothing..... as if they are immune to the treatments and drugs...... OR you have to give them a shot that will kill a horse and it knocks them out for maybe five or ten minutes. These are the ones I am interested in and I know if you have been in the field as long as you have you have seen maybe one or two in your life.....maybe not.

I have witnessed state certified Phyciatrist give up his practice because he knew it was a fraud after experiencing a real exorcism. Now I am not attacking mental health because I know that 9 out every 10 cases I receive it is a mental health issue BUT NOT all of them...... all the time.

Jesus is coming and he is pissed. He seeks revenge and he will get it. Best get straight with him and his Father......sooner than later..... agin my reason for this test... to shake up this world and realize there is more to it than we know.

Don't expect a kiss on the cheek.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Yes this would be an excellent study for a university to carry out, as it would be scrutinised by an ethics panel and monitored closely.

I look for the ones where medication does nothing..... as if they are immune to the treatments and drugs...... OR you have to give them a shot that will kill a horse and it knocks them out for maybe five or ten minutes. These are the ones I am interested in and I know if you have been in the field as long as you have you have seen maybe one or two in your life.....maybe not.

Yes again, but these are incredibly vulnerable people often with a long history of trauma and abuse, sometimes neurodevelopmental disorders, sometimes inheritable psychiatric conditions. Do NOT seek these people out to perform exorcisms on them, not ever. It is morally and ethically wrong to collude with them that they are possessed by demons. Encourage them to go back to their Dr and offer them some words of comfort from the bible if you like - but no, I can't advocate exorcisms because I think they are nonsense and hugely damaging to people.

Jesus is coming and he is pissed. He seeks revenge and he will get it. Best get straight with him and his Father......sooner than later..... agin my reason for this test... to shake up this world and realize there is more to it than we know.

Och well, he's entitled to be pissed off, there's a lot of terrible things happening in the world. People fighting with each other because this one's skin isn't the same as that one's skin. Children being bombed and maimed..I could go on, but you know as well as I do how the world is.
If you're right and I'm wrong then Jesus knows I'm a hopeless heathen already. I'll worry about him when he appears. I don't take kindly to angry blokes of any description so I'll take my chances with him.

a reply to: beansidhe

Yes again, but these are incredibly vulnerable people often with a long history of trauma and abuse, sometimes neurodevelopmental disorders, sometimes inheritable psychiatric conditions. Do NOT seek these people out to perform exorcisms on them, not ever. It is morally and ethically wrong to collude with them that they are possessed by demons. Encourage them to go back to their Dr and offer them some words of comfort from the bible if you like - but no, I can't advocate exorcisms because I think they are nonsense and hugely damaging to people.

Prior to conducting an exorcism the person is examined.....spiritually after mentally and mentally. The difference between the people you mention above and those I speak of is day and night. An exorcism can only be granted with certain traits have been identified. Those you speak of most certainly do not have these traits. What are some of the traits:

1. Do not identify yourself. Come in civilian clothes as a priest or demonologist and see what their reaction is when you enter the room at least for 5 minutes.

2. Place a bottle of normal water in a flask near the person..... don't say a word. What is her/his reaction?

3. Now place a a bottle of Holy water near the person..... don't say a word. What is her/his reaction?

4. Place a bottle of holy anointing oil near the person. What is her/his reaction?

If nothing has happened......99% mental case BUT if the person starts starring at the Holy water and then to the Holy Anointing oil we become suspicious........ we dont start an exorcism based on this..... Actually this only means we make a few more visits.

You place Holy water or an anointed oil near a possessed person and they will ALWAYS freak out, speaking in tongues, speaking backwards, always in different languages..... while they stare DIRECTLY at it and you.......just by simply placing the holy water near them..... IF however no reaction.....99% nothing.....

Sometimes simply carry it inside the room without them seeing it (inside your bag) and they start freaking out...... looking at your bag...... Then they identify you and call out your name and tell you exactly who you are..... your are Father blah blah..... or..... I know you you are ........ so and so.... remember me at blah blah......and they name you out. Is this a reason to start an exorcism....... NO.

BTW it is the bishops decision........

This is ONLY the beginning......of a long drawn out examination.

Many hours are spent with the subject......

I agree with you but you must watch what we do...... it will make you think twice.

EDIT LATER: I am getting tired this is my last post...... BTW an exorcism is nothing more than a series of prayers and commands.... nothing more. We don't beat them, scar them, microwave them or kill them. That is what idiots and the untrained do.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Sorry what do demonologists wear to be recognizable as a demonologist?.

Is it a cape? and round glasses?.
Lol pfft.
Will you answer my question? when was the last exorcism you partook in?.
Last post? because it is BS you know it and everyone else does....
But do run away brave sir robin.

I think I'm already possessed.

a reply to: boymonkey74

He doesn't answer the tough, to the point questions.

a reply to: boymonkey74

I told you already that there is no reason to communicate with you, didn't I?

The answer to your question once again is the same as I told you before......NO.

a reply to: DeathSlayer
I don't think asking you to return to this thread to answer legitimate concerns warrants your response. I understand you feel defensive, but people are naturally wary, and I don't see many volunteers without concerns being addressed. I would not qualify as I have a serious medical condition as well as PTSD.

mom dies of a car accident, dad falls over dead at work, your baby dies in the crib, you become unemployed.... a million things....

How you explain these events when someone has done absolutely nothing to open any doors? You can't. What about when the person had the protection of the holy spirit? Besides, if god doesn't allow those things to happen because he has other plans, the person may not experience any ill effects at all.

As a former christian, I have pretty good insight into how christians think. Can I ask, were you a former atheist? Honestly, I think someone could go a lot farther in bringing someone to christ if they understand an atheists mindset. Many life long christians mistakenly believe they understand the atheist mind set, but unless they have been there, they are mistaken.

Atheists on average tend to be more skeptical, yet christians never think to understand or try to appeal to that fact.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

No is not a valid answer to either of my questions in that post.
I will ask you again

What does a demonologist wear to be recognized as a demonologist. (a conical hat with the letter D on maybe?)
When was the last exorcism you partook in?.

Not hard questions are they?.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
I think I'm already possessed.

My internet died last night before I had a chance to edit this and elaborate.

I remember the feeling I had when I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ and became born again. I was very young, only a child. But it was a memorable experience for me. I felt what I can only describe as a warm "rushing of wind" inside me. I felt I was being filled up, and believed it was with the Holy Spirit.

Fast forward to my teenage years. I was on the school bus home. I can't remember the who what or why but this was the first time I used a curse word at somebody. The very first time I said "# you". I hesitated momentarily before letting those words cross my lips, but I just pushed them out. I had a similar feeling to the "rushing of wind" inside me I had when I became a Christian.

I don't really think a whole lot about either of these things anymore, now that I'm an atheist. Interesting, that's about it.

Uh Christ never walked through hell. Trip dawg. a reply to: DeathSlayer

I just literally devoured this whole thread from the beginning.
My only conclusion is I know nothing of God. But.... Humility for him is my only gift.
Admiration for the devil is my only gift. I am only a mere mortal.... and to that I lend myself a courtesy which I call trust. In those two gifts i place my comforts. I will die and will be nameless. So.... allow me to give thee all thanks. It was a pleasant read.