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Bernie Sanders' Religion is Collectivism

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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

I dont think thats true, some of the main points against some of the GOP nominees is thier religion , their belief in Christianity

Which is funny to me because the mantra use to be "So what if Obama is Muslim, his religion doesnt matter"

Now i hear a lot of "OH Cruz is Christian fundamentalist" "Oh Carson is 7th day Adventist"

Religion only "doesnt" matter when the right person is in place for the "cause"

Make no mistake , someones faith makes all the difference to some


The extreme right of the GOP have a history of inundating their message with religion as the basis for their domestic policy. So of course when a candidate take a stance that reflects their want to run a largely theocratic campaign, their religious leanings is going to be a large portion of the conversation or criticism.




posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: theplu
a reply to: enlightenedservant

I posted this right on this page a few hours ago and yet, we're still talking about it so... Apparently not.

Well, we can look on the bright side. At least they're proving they don't actually care about the US Constitution.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

You know - I just watched that clip again...made me fall in love with this guy all over again


Kimmel jumps on the fact that Bernie says "God forbid" in response to a potential victory by an ideological opponent. He asks Bernie if he does in fact believe in God...

...and Sanders uses the opportunity to launch into a campaign tirade about his socialist ambitions.


God is a non issue - and he was right to not answer directly. Jimmy should have known better than to ask

What followed was from his heart - and is as close as you're going to get from him about his beliefs

I know you can't understand that


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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Well, we can look on the bright side. At least they're proving they don't actually care about the US Constitution.


What I've learned from threads I've made on the Constitution is that most people think the Constitution is just the Bill of Rights and are completely ignorant of the rest of it.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Hes a freaking politician of course he wont answer a question directly


I dont think a politician ever has!



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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My stray thoughts on him.

He scares me. Only heard a few minutes at most, and that drum set he did.

It's his voice, manner of speaking that does it, that, and the look of resentment on his face.

The bolshevik reunion tour officially started, in my humble opinion, when the media creatures began soliciting that story about the billionaire who warned all his millionaire buddies who were worth over a certain monetary threshold about how

'pitchforks are coming'

www.politico.com...

Pitchforks. And vodka.
All the water's been contaminated with proprietary filth.

Fomenting death and rebellion between the haves and have nots (of material garbage) via riotous material theft, as a life goal, and as a diversion to keep the heat off the organizers of our technofascist captivity.

After the looting, these bolshevik rallies tend to become a little too snuff-ish, for my tastes. They often decide that civilization cannot be perfected until the last worshipper of God is lined against a wall or shot or whatever. With guns. Normal folk get pitchforks. Government uses guns. Best to nip this sort of thing in the bud, before Hillary gets ideas (she already has), because she is flexible in her role for power. She will play whichever role whatever we want her to play. A "Reds" remake. It takes a Village (Margaret Mead). A hippie shrine! An Institutionalized Mental Health Evaluation in every raid. Whatever is in the air, she will embrace it. Above all, she will play Technofascist neo-con Princess, since that comes with the package too! Nobody on any edge of this coin seems to be getting cue cards that read 'let's diminish this police state thingie'… And look at what she wore while in college. If pitchforks are what we want, Hillary will probably deliver. She is a bone thug, once you get her out of that pant suit.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism.

Once outright theft has become an institution, there are many ways they can seize control. See red october bolshevik revolution.

What really matters when hearing the 'debates', is the ethos being set, or established.

Durr….Corporations are muh friend and friends don't let friends pay taxes!

It'd be so easy to make sensible taxation, to support a sensible infrastructure; instead it's this pitchfork party that was planned long ago by the usual suspects, because they always stay on top, especially under bolshevism.

I saw this like a flash, the second I read about Hanuer's warning. Come on, man, pitchforks?

Something's off.


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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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Neocons really have it out for Sanders , he must be doing something right. religion and politics goes together like vodka and milk.

Statists and religious folk are one and the same and they scare the bejesus out of me !

We have as many neo-conservative / Christian extremist here as Islam has terrorist afoot in arab countries. With that said both are hell bent on total annihilation of the other and willing to get the rest of us killed in the process.

Unfortunately there is no omnipotent being dabbling in the trivial differences of our lives. All this dragging religious tripe in to politics turns me off. Sanders may propose some wacky ideas but at least he is not white knighting for the ruling class elite like his opposition does. The neo-cons want a preacher/CEO to run this country. And that is by far more insane than a socialist at the podium.

Id rather have a potato as our next president than any of the candidates in both partys. Thats how non-exited I am about this next election.
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: TheWhiteKnight


If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.


If you deny people freedom, justice, safety, mobility, comfort and hope - you set the stage for your own demise

The way that end comes about may not be right, and it definitely won't be pretty, but it's understandable and foreseeable

That's all he's saying

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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: DarthFazer

Uh, I think Sanders scares CONSERVATIVES a whole lot more than he scares neocons (AKA liberal Republicans.) I'm certainly no neocon and I feel a Sander's presidency sink the USA deep enough into the bowels of hand outs and takers that there's likely no coming back for us.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

Does this clarify things?

The Constitution doesn't limit my behavior. The government cannot have a religious test.

Try again.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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I practiced Bernie style redistribution this morning at brunch. We went to Waffle House and my son and my husband both had bacon and I didn't. Clearly that was not fair. So I took bacon from my husband and ate it. Nevermind that I didn't order any bacon for myself.

He resented it of course, but he was wealthy with three whole pieces. What gave him the right to be greedy and selfish? Nevermind that I didn't ask if I could have any of his bacon.

Clearly, I deserved to have bacon just as much as everyone else at the table. So I redistributed the amount of bacon to make it fair.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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I practiced Bernie style redistribution this morning at brunch. We went to Waffle House and my son and my husband both had bacon and I didn't. Clearly that was not fair. So I took bacon from my husband and ate it. Nevermind that I didn't order any bacon for myself. He resented it of course, but he was wealthy with three whole pieces. What gave him the right to be greedy and selfish? Nevermind that I didn't ask if I could have any of his bacon. Clearly, I deserved to have bacon just as much as everyone else at the table. So I redistributed the amount of bacon to make it fair.


Wow - that's almost like a parable

Thanks ketsuko - now I understand Bernie Sanders - greedy bacon thieving bastard

I almost made a horrible mistake...
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Hey, you either feel like you are justified in taking others people's stuff and don't understand why they get upset when you take it or you feel like they have a right to their property and understand why they get upset.


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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I practiced Bernie style redistribution this morning at brunch. We went to Waffle House and my son and my husband both had bacon and I didn't. Clearly that was not fair. So I took bacon from my husband and ate it. Nevermind that I didn't order any bacon for myself.

He resented it of course, but he was wealthy with three whole pieces. What gave him the right to be greedy and selfish? Nevermind that I didn't ask if I could have any of his bacon.

Clearly, I deserved to have bacon just as much as everyone else at the table. So I redistributed the amount of bacon to make it fair.


Just wait until no one has bacon, unless you're part of the ruling class.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Hey, you either feel like you are justified in taking others people's stuff and don't understand why they get upset when you take it or you feel like they have a right to their property and understand why they get upset.


I feel that I have a right to be at the table

But, maybe that's something I need to explain with some Play-Doh and a spoon



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You have a right to be at the table, but do you have a right to someone else's food?

I am already at the table as a citizen of the country, but I don't have a right to my neighbor's bacon.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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practiced Bernie style redistribution this morning at brunch. We went to Waffle House and my son and my husband both had bacon and I didn't.
What about the rest of the people who are UNABLE to afford to eat at Waffle House?

Hmmm? Haven't had a steak in how long, kets? But you can afford Waffle House for three? On a whim? Like, "Hey, guys, I'm hungry! Let's go to Waffle House!"


Clearly that was not fair.

Just pointing out that you said this. You were dealing with your own little clan. You were NOT addressing the plights of people just outside the door who are homeless and starving....or, wait - do you live in Mission Hills? If so, then obviously none of this applies to you.



So I took bacon from my husband and ate it. Nevermind that I didn't order any bacon for myself.
But, you also didn't give it to the hungry people standing on freeway exits, or outside the City Union Mission.....


He resented it of course, but he was wealthy with three whole pieces. What gave him the right to be greedy and selfish? Nevermind that I didn't ask if I could have any of his bacon.

Clearly, I deserved to have bacon just as much as everyone else at the table. So I redistributed the amount of bacon to make it fair.

At YOUR table, you mean. If a homeless, grubby, hungry person had walked up to your table and said, "Ma'am, would you mind sharing those pieces of bacon that you and your husband and your kid CLEARLY don't actually need? Would that be okay?"

What would you have said then? Instead of just having your little board game of food-sharing with your provider and your dependent?



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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I thought it was a buffet. Bacon for everyone!



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: windword

Nah, Waffle House is the one where you order it and then sit there and watch the show of the laborers making your food, using language that only they can understand.....because the diners are so impatient (and bored) waiting for their short-order food that the staff have to use shorthand and codewords in order to get it done "fast enough" to suit the diners.


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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Next time, just have everyone order bacon but when the bill comes, give it to another table.



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