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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: anxiouswens
- The treck to Germany or Sweden is long and hazardous, and as soon as they are accepted refugees, their families can come in on much safer ways.
originally posted by: anxiouswens
What I have noticed on the whole on this subject is that the people on ATS who seem not able to see how dangerous this is (and this is a generalised view) seem mainly to be from Countries such as Canada. Maybe a reason for this is because as I have just seen on another post Canada have much stricter rules when it comes to taking in refugees/asylum seekers. Also what people from all non-EU Countries seem to forget is that a big pull factor in Europe and the UK is the welfare system. For instance in the UK we have a NHS so health care is free of charge. Obviously anyone going to America wouldn't be able to get health care like this. There are the numerous benefits immigrants are allowed to claim as well, even if they are illegal, as shown in my other post.
There is also something fundamentally wrong with our Laws. Just recently there has been the case of the Libyan cadets who came to the UK and were charged rape and are now seeking asylum in our Country and are being funded to bring a case against the Government, then people wonder why British people like myself are so angry.
originally posted by: Gothmog
Wasnt some of this supposedly predicted by Nostradamus ?
originally posted by: anxiouswens
Also what people from all non-EU Countries seem to forget is that a big pull factor in Europe and the UK is the welfare system. For instance in the UK we have a NHS so health care is free of charge. Obviously anyone going to America wouldn't be able to get health care like this. There are the numerous benefits immigrants are allowed to claim as well, even if they are illegal, as shown in my other post.
originally posted by: ratsinacage
Another thing. I like so called "mono culture". These dummies that say we need to get rid of it are anti human. Humans have ALWAYS congregated among similar humans and formed somewhat uniform communities. This is not bad. Mono culture is the reason why we travel to foreign countries where they do things DIFFERENTLY and are different.....because thats exciting, thats interesting.
If i go to Sweden its because i want to experience things that are uniquely and more importantly UNIFORMALLY Swedish. Thats because those things are what makes Sweden what it is. Once you start diluting a culture and even worse, making the people of that culture feel guilty for their identity you have SUBJUGATED them.....you have conquered them.
If i want diversity ill go to a DIFFERENT country to visit orrrrrrrr....even to live there! And when i go to that country to live there......guess what.....i will live the WAY those people live.......because why would i want to destroy or in any way dilute the very things which made me want to live there or attracted me to visit?
When people refuse to integrate they prove what they really are and what they are really about.
originally posted by: tony9802
I remember when the war against Iraq was just beginning and was being decided on.. MILLIONS of people closed the city centers and capitals of Europe in opposition, making their voices known and heard..why can't do they it again?
The share of Germans who are satisfied with Merkel’s handling of her job fell 9 percentage points to 54 percent in the Infratest Dimap poll, the lowest since December 2011, broadcaster ARD said in a statement Friday. Backing for Horst Seehofer, the Bavarian state premier who has called Merkel’s refugee policy a “mistake,” gained 11 points to 39 percent.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.
originally posted by: solve
a reply to: boymonkey74
So they bail out, and leave their women and children for the wolves, i have thought every possible situation, and leaving your family behind, will never be the best solution.
Do you think they will leave the families in peace when the men leave the country?
They take the women and children, and sell them to the highest bidder. so the plan kinda backfires, no?
originally posted by: anxiouswens
I have just come across this article and it pulls together all the different fears that a lot have been speaking about here on ATS. Before the normal name calling starts one thing that stood out in the article was this:
"Any criticism of Islam in Europe is treated as a form of racism, and "Islamophobia" is considered a crime or a sign of mental illness".
It also says about the no-go zones as discussed on a separate thread:
"Illegal Muslim migrants are likely to join the Muslims already living in Europe; and they will remain Muslim. They will live on social benefits until the bankruptcy of welfare states. They will reside in the "no-go zones," and the "no-go zones" will continue to grow. Their occupants come from countries where Christians and women are mistreated; in Europe, they are already mistreating Christians and women".
Also discussed is the fact that a lot aren't coming from Syria:
"Journalists in Western Europe continue to depict them as "refugees" fleeing war in Syria. The description is false. According to statistics released by the European Union, only twenty-five percent of them come from Syria; the true number is probably lower. The Syrian government sells passports and birth certificates at affordable prices. The vast majority of migrants come from other countries: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Eritrea, Somalia, and Nigeria.
Many do not seem to have left in a hurry. Many bring new high-end smartphones and large sums of cash, ten or twenty thousand euros, sometimes more. Many have no passports, no ID, and refuse to give fingerprints.
Whenever people flee to survive, the men come with whole families: women, children, elders. Here, instead, more than 75% of those who arrive are men under 50; few are women, children or elders."
And, finally, the one thing that really concerns me and people I speak to namely:
"Many of those who arrive, according to European intelligence sources, are already radicalized.
A project to overwhelm Europe by a huge wave of migration was already described by the Islamic State in documents discovered this February. It is hard to rule out that the Islamic State plays a role in what is happening. Turkish authorities are ignoring the massive departures taking place from their coast. If they really wanted the current process to stop, they could stop it. That is clearly not what they do. The Islamic State could not survive without Turkish help. Daily flights on Turkish Airlines bring illegal migrants to Istanbul; they continue unhindered to Europe. The Russians, in their military intervention in Syria, similarly does not seem interested in stopping what is occurring".
Anyway I thought it was an interesting article and brings together most of the fears people in Europe and the UK have and the concerns I think our leaders need to at least start listening to because as it says in the article the leaders such as Merkel don't seem to hear those concerns instead there seems to be no organisation and no end in sight. I've also seen a video today of a Syrian refugee being interviewed in Germany and it shows the conditions there. It is coming to something when even a refugee is saying they need to stop letting people in if the infrastructure isn't there to cope with these numbers. Although, many Syria refugees have been voicing these type of concerns for weeks now. The kind people don't seem able to see that what is happening at the moment is just as cruel but in a different way. Syrian refugees are the people in real need and yet they have said themselves they are being pushed to back of the queue in many instances because there are so many economic migrants who shouldn't even be seeking asylum. The video is here:
originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
WOOOW. Look at those numbers people. Muslims are TAKING OVER. Run for your lives. What a load of propaganda BS . How the ___ can a such small minority conquer anything ? ATS - embrace ignorance