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originally posted by: AK907ICECOLD
a reply to: InnerPeace2012
It's rather cold, then warm.... But the temps go up and down. I have lived here for 30 years, nothing in weather patterns concerns me.
I'll be dead by then anyhow
Where you at on this Shred?
originally posted by: mbkennel
The computer models of IPPC have all been wrong to date but I am supposed to believe that they got it just for something like a century from now?
The models haven't been that wrong, and they've been better than anybody else's half-assed guess or unsupported assertion.
The most common misconception regarding this email is to assume 'hide the decline' refers to declining temperatures.
The 'decline' actually refers to a decline in tree-ring growth in certian high-latitude regions since the 1960s. This is known as the 'divergence problem,' where some tree-ring proxies diverge from modern instrumental temperature records after 1960. This was discussed in the peer-reviewed literature as early as 1995, suggesting a change in sensitivity of tree growth to temperature in recent decades (Jacoby and D'Arrigo, 1995). When you look at Jones's email in the context of the science discussed, it is not the scheming of a climate conspiracy, but technical discussions of data-handling techniques readily available in the peer-reviewed literature.
Wait, let me guess... those are UAH and RSS satellites, aren't they?
originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
You guys can bust out all the facts and data you want, but there's always going to be people out there who simply can't interpret data, don't understand trends, and can't form logical conclusions from their data analysis.
There's always going to be a difference between people who make up stories in their head and use that as their way of interpreting the world and those who learn through experiences from the environment surrounding them. The first group are what we call "stupid". They will always touch the burning hot oven rack twice just to double check that it is in fact burning hot. The second group avoids third degree burns. If we didn't have social welfare the first group would have been bred out of existence long ago.