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Talorc: The OP red)uces the concept to fit his purpose. It's quite obvious that Jesus' sacrifice wasn't in dying on the cross. That is a lazy strawman from someone who has a bone to pick. As to why we suffer? That's quite the weighted question, my friend.
Talorc: Strictly speaking, suffering is a biological response to harmful stimuli. Emotional suffering is more intricate, arising from unsated desire, mistreatment, stress, or any number of things. Taking the existentialist view, perhaps we suffer because the world is chaotic and random and has no regard for us, and we are left to find our own meaning in things.
cooperton: "Jesus is different than others who have died by crucifixion because Christ was 100% innocent of all wrong-doing. Believe it or not you do reap what you sow, also known as karma, Newton's 3rd law, etc..To put it briefly, Jesus was like a karmic sponge for all humankind".
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Ghost147
Immortal or not...
the shear amount of pain he went though would be enough for anyone else to say "no way in hell im going down there...
He knew where he came from, and he knew where he was headed... In fact he even said that
By the way, Christians believe he actually went to hell after he died... based on one passage
originally posted by: Ghost147To me, it would make a lot more sense Jesus went down to Earth, did his thing and spreed his message, and then eternally went to Hell afterwards. Would that not be an infinitely more powerful and moving sacrifice. Knowing that he would spend the rest of eternity in Hell, rather than knowing he'd be right back to super-perfect heaven?
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
God made you with neurons in your heart, gut and brain. Make the best use of then all.
He cant just impose himself
When God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, and Abraham obliged, this exalted Abraham, because he was willing to do what God would do later with his Son Jesus.
God did not murder his child.