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Sobering documentary of the Muslim problem in Europe: Paris, Sweden, no-go zones

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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I found the ats thread that debubunked the paris no go zones.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Interesting, thanks duke.

Had to be Fox.




posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

I responded there.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: FlySolo

Funny that 10 min in and you already have the stars and flags and it is a 40 min documentary...
topdocumentaryfilms.com...

Here is a another good one btw.
Up to 7 flags, in less then 20 min with a 40 min documentary, guess people don't really care what it has to say, just need to say that muslims=bad and recipe for the stats.


Funny, at ten minutes in you are prepared to comment too.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Just remember that there is no such thing as a no go zone. Anywhere.

Sure there are places in Vegas, like dark allies with no cops around that I don't go to at 2am by myself. That's just called common sense...as long as there are cities there will be some crime, especially at night. But other than that? No such thing as a No go zone.


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are indeed No Go Zones, right here in the good old US. They have nothing to do with religion of any form, unless you want to call addiction and crime a religion.

I used to provide health, medical, and education services, for the needy in their homes. There were places were I had to have a security escort to enter. These places were actually fenced in with razor wire over the top. Things got so bad, we couldn't enter even with police escort. The people had to start coming to us.

We had a young female nurse that was beaten in broad day light, her jaw and clavicle were broken, just because they asked her for syringes, and she didn't have any. There are indeed areas were the police will not go. There are places where the people that live in them are terrified but are trapped.

As much as we want to think that the devil doesn't exist, he is alive and well, and I can assure you, you don't want to meet him. The gangs insides of these areas have no regard for life or property. Not theirs and surely not yours.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:16 PM
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Hm. They also interviewed a female Muslim mayor, and she didn't give a very encouraging report either.
Unless you think they are all paid actors.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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This the link, right?

French bloody link

Remember to give the link a name first and THEN to add the link information, not the other way round.


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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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the lawless invaders see themselves as holy & entitled... the friggin EU thinks they must maintain the PC image of being open & giving


the invasion force don't give a crap about the EU peoples rights or standard of living... but the imbicile Europeans think unlimited allowance will magically change these thieving & murderous thugs into concerned citizens who want to help build and nurture an integrated society...

no way Jose... the human refuse which they are, up to 90% of them, are all about taking - NOT giving


history has given us many roadmaps to either follow or to tweek a little....... Gulag, internment camps are just two off the top of my head.... but there's NO WAY for those thugs to get free welfare/food/medicine/housing as political refugees---especially after the way they trash everything in their wake instead of being considerate &/or grateful


send the USA's CDC over there and in the USA sanctuary cities to forcibly immunize all those diseased & hateful thugs with the flu shots that the American citizens are being forced to take

Let's see how long that invasion flood of people will allow forced immunizations on thos Muslims & Arabs & assorted terrorists in hiding... if they don't take the shot--- then forcibly detain them in 100 gitmo camps in the lower 48 states
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I will gladly head up the next administrations immigration office... seeing as we are essentially a fascist state now but avoiding the Nazi association as we go
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: amazing
Just remember that there is no such thing as a no go zone. Anywhere.

Sure there are places in Vegas, like dark allies with no cops around that I don't go to at 2am by myself. That's just called common sense...as long as there are cities there will be some crime, especially at night. But other than that? No such thing as a No go zone.


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are indeed No Go Zones, right here in the good old US. They have nothing to do with religion of any form, unless you want to call addiction and crime a religion.

I used to provide health, medical, and education services, for the needy in their homes. There were places were I had to have a security escort to enter. These places were actually fenced in with razor wire over the top. Things got so bad, we couldn't enter even with police escort. The people had to start coming to us.

We had a young female nurse that was beaten in broad day light, her jaw and clavicle were broken, just because they asked her for syringes, and she didn't have any. There are indeed areas were the police will not go. There are places where the people that live in them are terrified but are trapped.

As much as we want to think that the devil doesn't exist, he is alive and well, and I can assure you, you don't want to meet him. The gangs insides of these areas have no regard for life or property. Not theirs and surely not yours.





Well like I said earlier, there is crime and high poverty areas with prostitutes and drug addicts in every bigger city the world over. I don't visit those places at 2am in the morning by myself. That's just common sense.

However, there are no public outdoor areas in the us that are no go zones. Especially in daylight.

I'll go there hang out, have fun and film it. Tell me where to go. I'm down to prove you wrong.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Thanks for sharing.



One last example is me . I don't care what a person believes as long as they do no harm to others. I've seen "believers" who were evil & "believers" who were like personifications of all that is good. I've also seen nonbelievers who were evil & nonbelievers who were like personifications of all that is good. I judge a person based on their character.



Well that's the issue isn't it. It's so easy talking about groups an entire religions, but when it comes down to the individual level, none of it really matters where only character can. We know most of what we need to know in a couple minutes and a beer, or halal wine, whatever the case may be.

I find that comparing people to their group identity always leads to fallacy, something like the fallacy of composition in reverse, and is usually found to be wrong; but I would argue to identify as a group is equally as fallacious, leading to the same dangerous consequences. This is where the anti-progressive argument is as strong as the progressive one. It's sort of a false dichotomy, in a way.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: enlightenedservant

Thanks for sharing.



One last example is me . I don't care what a person believes as long as they do no harm to others. I've seen "believers" who were evil & "believers" who were like personifications of all that is good. I've also seen nonbelievers who were evil & nonbelievers who were like personifications of all that is good. I judge a person based on their character.



Well that's the issue isn't it. It's so easy talking about groups an entire religions, but when it comes down to the individual level, none of it really matters where only character can. We know most of what we need to know in a couple minutes and a beer, or halal wine, whatever the case may be.

I find that comparing people to their group identity always leads to fallacy, something like the fallacy of composition in reverse, and is usually found to be wrong; but I would argue to identify as a group is equally as fallacious, leading to the same dangerous consequences. This is where the anti-progressive argument is as strong as the progressive one. It's sort of a false dichotomy, in a way.

The way I see it, people are just people. Every single person has strengths & weaknesses, interests & pet peeves. There's no cursed lineages just as there are no blessed lineages. We all bleed when cut, require food & drink, laugh at things we find funny, and get moody. It's the blanket bigotry I have a problem with (you could say I'm intolerant of bigotry).



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: enlightenedservant

It may not be the expansion he is worried about but the ones here creating their own enclaves and unable to integrate.

Personally in the 33 years I lived in the UK I never saw anything, no Muslim gangs or no go areas, a very affluent Jewish part of Manchester, a very integrated Rusholme and the curry mile.

Understand it could be certain areas, but I saw a lot of the UK and not any of this (accept this is talking Sweden). The biggest problem I had in the UK were pikeys, travelers or whatever, the definately had their own areas and no go zones, mainly in sh1tty muddy fields or derelict warehouses, the type of place I didn't want to go anyway.

I don't think there is a problem that wouldn't be sorted if there was one.

Just to be clear. You lived in the UK for 33 years & never saw any of this crap they're fearmongering about? Isn't that what the moral of this story should be? It's like the people who scare their kids with goblins & other crazy creatures if they don't brush their teeth.

Also, if people are really afraid of "no go zones", why don't they talk about the actual "no go zones" in America? They're called "Sundown Towns". Let's see if these Islamophobes would like to have a real conversation about "no go zones".


OK to be clear I never saw it first hand, I never witnessed it on my travels, i never once saw a muslim no go zone. I heard about them in Tower Hamlets in london but never from anyone who I would say didnt have an agenda.

Oh I forgot, there were a few Council Estates you wouldnt go to, council estates were free homes to the poor, they attracted trouble, I could imagine that if a Muslim family were in there they would be effectively terrorized by the council kids, so they would stick together for protection. But most councils now realise instead of having 100% saturation of poor people, you spread them across the whole town to stop pockets of trouble.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Your lying. You're lying about the speakers of truth telling lies. You're scared people will wake up and you're scared of your own faith. Otherwise you wouldn't spend so much time calling us all liars. Must be stressful always having to do that. You can't say every single first hand video that comes out of Europe depicting the lawlessness of Muslims is lie. A picture is worth a thousand words and you can't deny your lies enough.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: enlightenedservant

Your lying. You're lying about the speakers of truth telling lies. You're scared people will wake up and you're scared of your own faith. Otherwise you wouldn't spend so much time calling us all liars. Must be stressful always having to do that. You can't say every single first hand video that comes out of Europe depicting the lawlessness of Muslims is lie. A picture is worth a thousand words and you can't deny your lies enough.

No, I called you a liar because you lied about me. You said I called critics "racist" when I never said that. That means you lied.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Sorry partner. You came right out the gate in my thread stating I'm posting lies.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: Bluesma

originally posted by: amazing
Just remember that there is no such thing as a no go zone. Anywhere.

If you doubt this, fly me out and I'll go there hang out film the whole adventure for ATS exclusive. If you're in the US, Room and board when I get there. I'll drive myself. Not only will I hang out safely but I'll talk to people, buy things, read magazines and books, dance and provide a free self-defense class.


Sure there are places in Vegas, like dark allies with no cops around that I don't go to at 2am by myself. That's just called common sense...as long as there are cities there will be some crime, especially at night. But other than that? No such thing as a No go zone.


I sincerely would appreciate it if you would go to these places, and film your experience.
I am weary of bearing witness. Yes, these zones do exist. I don't speak for any other country than the one I have direct contact with such zones- France.
In this video, the mayor of Marseille, an arab muslim and who grew up in the neighborhood herself, describes this situation... and you still don't believe it?

I do not hate muslims, I do not think all muslims are violent or dangerous, none of that exaggerated bs.

But there is a real state of crisis in these neighborhoods, commonly referred to as "No-Go" zones in english, because the police hesitate or refuse to enter them because of the danger.

The situation is complicated, and doesn't add up to the silly accusations that anyone who acknowledges this is an "islamaphobe"- that is childish rhetoric. Civil conflicts are much more complicated than just "bad" guys versus "good" guys.
But that doesn't mean there is not an explosive situation happening.


I lived in Germany 8 years ago for three years
near the French border.

There was a problem at that time with
Muslim no-go zones. It was in the news
at the time and I had heard about the
zones in the local news before we
ever came back from the US.

The no-go Muslim zones ruled by
Shariah law have been in existence
for well over 8 years, long before
the "immigration problem" .

People in France and Germany
were discussing 8 years ago if
this was healthy for the country or not.

Actually these no-go zones are nothing new
where Muslim immigrants settled in Europe.
What they mean by no-go is that
IF you go into them you are expected to
abide by Shariah law. If you don't follow
Shariah, don't go there or you risk
being assaulted for not following Shariah.

No-go doesn't mean non-Muslims are forbidden
to go into an area.
It means if you don't want to follow Shariah
then don't go into that area.



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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: enlightenedservant

Sorry partner. You came right out the gate in my thread stating I'm posting lies.


In other words, you either have a problem with reading comprehension or you're a habitual liar. Because everyone can read my first post in this thread, which didn't even mention the words "lie" or "liar" once. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, does this mean you have no other bs to spout? Or is this attempt to fearmonger over?

EDIT: Added the post I was replying to.
edit on 20-10-2015 by enlightenedservant because: Added the post I was replying to.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: FlySolo

CRAPtastic! Watched the first part not even sure I want to click on the link for part 2... This is not from fear, but wth? If they do not chose as a whole to integrate then they must be sent back where they can Islamamafiosaize all they want.

Scary stuff and they are infiltrating the world, they truly are.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Oh my mistake, you called me a hater right out the gate. Now you're calling me a habitual liar? Hey listen dude, I haven't lied about anything here at ATS since I became a member. Now, you better come up with something quick to prove otherwise or I call bs on you, your stance, your attitude and your facts. All bs. Show me what makes me a habitual liar?



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: antar

In one of the episodes (i think in episode 2) he goes to Charlie hebdo offices and interviews the cartoonists who were subsequently murdered. He even talks to them about that exact possibility. Mind blowing stuff...



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: antar

I'm glad I made a difference. Don't let the bleeding hearts call you a bigot.




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