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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Globalist

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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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It is the morning after the 2015 Canadian General Election and I am still in shock.

I cannot believe that Justin Trudeau is now Prime Minister of this country. To me it is a nightmare, not particularly because of who Justin Trudeau is, a nice, naive young man, but because the Canadian electorate was so easily persuaded to put the country into the hands of this nice, naive young man.

As happened in the election for Mayor of Toronto, this General Election was fought largely by advancing policy bromides in public debate and hunting for exploitable pratfalls for use against the party leaders.

Faced with the choice, on the election carnival midway, voters chose to buy Trudeau's very sweet "Cotton Candy Canada" rather than, in my opinion, the more substantial "Harper Economic Hotdog" being proffered by the (ex) Prime Minister.

Most shocking of all to me, though, was the astonishing collapse of the NDP and the fact that the press has made so much of Mr. Mulcair's support for Muslim women who prefer to keep their faces covered during oath taking rituals at citizenship ceremonies and the like.

I find Mulcair's position on the niqab to be of virtually no significance whatsoever when put alongside the demonstrable fact that support for the socialist party in Canada, the NDP, is almost completely ephemeral, apart from a persistent hardcore average amounting to about 25 seats in Parliament.

For a long time now I have believed that the NDP is a fraudulent political party, a "gatekeeper" party serving as a place where "pinkos" can mingle without becoming a danger to the socioeconomic status quo.

There is no strong left wing newspaper in Canada presenting a comprehensive critique of all aspects of Canadian life from a socialist perspective and until such a voice is created in this country, socialism will be stuck on the periphery of Canadian life.

To me, Justin Trudeau is going to be one of the most dangerous Prime Ministers ever elected in this country, analogous to George W. Bush in the United States. Bush came into office billed as a "conciliator", someone who could bring opposing sides together, someone who would hold down spending and eschew foreign entanglements and expensive and quixotic exercises in frustration, like "nation building".

In his very first cabinet meeting he instructed his cabinet to find a pretext for him to invade Iraq. In public he presented as a dummy and was thus the perfect spokesperson to interpret 9/11 to a nation of dummies, who couldn't see that their own government had attacked them.

Justin Trudeau, in stating that his aim is to build a stronger, better, more inclusive Canada, across the board in everything from social policies designed to meet the needs of every person and every group in the country, to a Pollyanna like faith in an ability to create constructive amity in all relationships with our international partners on the continent and around the world, is in fact, knowingly or, even more likely, unkowingly, preparing the way for the most significant reductions we have yet seen in Canadian sovereignty and the most significant assaults we have yet seen on "the Canadian way of life".

Mr. Trudeau, I am certain, is just another globalist. The headline in today's Toronto Star is, It's a New Canada. I think they are right. Mr. Trudeau is going to be, I predict, the first Prime Minister of this country to be an overt globalist, who moves this country decisively out of its traditional national orbit.


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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 07:48 AM
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He wants to legalize marijuana in Canada. He's ok in my book.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

According to Bill Blair, who will be prominent in Trudeau's cabinet on security issues, marijuana is a very dangerous drug that will be taken out of the ambit of criminal law and be subject to strict regulation.

The Canadian government is a prisoner to a great extent of American attitudes to this "recreational" drug. Even in the United States it is being decriminalized piecemeal by different states.

Trudeau's election is probably good news for marijuana users, but marijuana is a tangential issue, really, in my opinion.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: ipsedixit


In his very first cabinet meeting he instructed his cabinet to find a pretext for him to invade Iraq. In public he presented as a dummy and was thus the perfect spokesperson to interpret 9/11 to a nation of dummies, who couldn't see that their own government had attacked them.



Sometimes I wish there was a way to issue "negative flags and stars".

All hope of your post having any credibility whatsoever was lost with the underlined portion of the quote (above).



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Are you saying that America is not a nation of dummies? lol.

I admit, it took me years to figure it out too, but at least I did figure it out. 9/11 was an inside job.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
He wants to legalize marijuana in Canada. He's ok in my book.


Although I agree that would be a good thing, he won't do it. He won't reverse any destructive bills or treaties and like obama he will reinforce them and make them worse. He will not help rebuild the middle class or uplift the poor, he will sack their incomes and never touch his corporate masters.he will not create more jobs through manufacturing, he will allow increased job migration and a continuation of harper's fire sale.

He will finish the job his father started and destroy Canada so that it will be more pliable to the globalist agenda.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

We had 3 bowls of poop to choose from.

WE chose the color of the bowl. How are you surprised?

Were you in support of Harper the traitor is his cronies? Were you supportive of Tom Mulcair's incessant need to hear himself speak?

Who else would you have chosen to run the county? At least the liberals have had a chance of running a nation before and doing relatively well at it for a time.

I for one am just happy to not have the whole god damn map colored blue for once in the last decade.

~Tenth



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

People seem to forget that Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty piloted Canada through a major international banking crisis, relatively unscathed. They were heroes at the time, acknowledged worldwide. The UK even went so far as to, in an unheard of, for them, move, snatch the Governor of the Bank of Canada away from us, in order to put their own banking house in order.

Whatever one might think of Harper personally, drab, colorless, he was definitely very competent.

People blame Harper for "selling out to the Americans". Wake up folks. Paul Martin, another "Liberal" globalist, signed the Peace and Prosperity Partnership agreement with the US and Mexico.

The Harper government put the breaks on some Chinese acquisitions in the oil patch.

Handling the economy is complex. You win some and you lose some, but the main thrust of politics in this country for a very long time has been to stay tight with the Americans on the economic front while trying to stay Canadian.

I think Trudeau is going to try to redefine what being Canadian is and is going to be much more accommodating to international pressures than Mr. Harper ever was.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

Yes, I am saying "America is not a nation of dummies". The US, like Canada, contains plenty of "dummies", but to characterize the whole nation as a "nation of dummies" speaks to the level of intelligence of the author.

Further, please do enlighten us (all) on how you personally, on September 11 2001, could "see" the US had attacked itself. (?) I very much look forward to hearing your response!

Lastly, in case you haven't noticed, Canada happens to be part of "America", specifically 'North America'.


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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:42 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: ipsedixit

Yes, I am saying "America is not a nation of dummies".


That astonishes me. I don't mean like, manikins.


The US, like Canada, contains plenty of "dummies", but to characterize the whole nation as a "nation of dummies" speaks to the level of intelligence of the author.


That's true.


Further, please do enlighten us (all) on how you personally, on September 11 2001, could "see" the US had attacked itself. (?) I very much look forward to hearing your response!


I said it took me years to figure it out. Are you wearing your specs?


Lastly, in case you haven't noticed, Canada happens to be part of "America", specifically 'North America'.


That's my point. Trudeau is going to make it as official as he can, I think.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit


People seem to forget that Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty piloted Canada through a major international banking crisis, relatively unscathed.


Yes, Stephen Harper if nothing else, was a good economist.

But that's not all there is to a leader. He failed miserably on social issues, aboriginal affairs, the environment, poverty , the criminal justice system.

In virtually every non economy related sector, Harper is a complete failure. The only reason he ran a surplus this year is because of the massive cuts he made to various programs. I don't mind running a deficit if the money is spent on things we actually need in this country.

As opposed to jets we'll never use and security policies that allow wide spread spying on us. The one thing about Trudeau that I really really don't like is his support of the TPP.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: ipsedixit


He failed miserably on social issues, aboriginal affairs, the environment, poverty , the criminal justice system.


Has any government ever performed adequately on the issue of poverty? How about the environment? Not one single government in Canadian history has presided over anything but the degradation of the environment. What social issue did Harper exacerbate? The right to wear a mask while becoming a Canadian citizen? How was the criminal justice system degraded under Harper? Seriously, I can't think of any criminal justice pratfalls that have occurred. Maybe I'm not as tuned in as I should be on justice.


In virtually every non economy related sector, Harper is a complete failure. The only reason he ran a surplus this year is because of the massive cuts he made to various programs. I don't mind running a deficit if the money is spent on things we actually need in this country.


Things like debt servicing, you mean? Harper, the accused tool of capitalism, is lambasted by his critics for trying to cut the amount of money we fork over to bankers. It's a joke.


As opposed to jets we'll never use and security policies that allow wide spread spying on us. The one thing about Trudeau that I really really don't like is his support of the TPP.


Mark my words, Trudeau is going to make Harper's critic's heads spin as he deconstructs this country.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit


What social issue did Harper exacerbate?


Well he supports the continued murder of aboriginal women.

He continues to support minimum sentences for non violent drug offenders among other things.

He destroyed the press core by only inviting journalists who promised to only ask the questions he vetted first.

Collective bargaining rights, Omnibus bills the list of failures and out right power grabs go on and on and on.

Don't even get me started on SOPA and the TPP as well as Bill C51.

His conservative government wanted to take Canada back to the 1950's.

~Tenth



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

Easily persuaded? Its harpers racism, attack ads and low ball tactics that gave the libs a win. You only have the cons and ndp to blame.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: ipsedixit


What social issue did Harper exacerbate?

Well he supports the continued murder of aboriginal women.


At least you didn't say advocates.


He continues to support minimum sentences for non violent drug offenders among other things.


That's a vast oversimplification. According to Bill Blair, former Toronto police chief, Trudeau intends to decriminalize marijuana. You are not saying that a non violent heroin trafficker should be let off lightly are you?


He destroyed the press core by only inviting journalists who promised to only ask the questions he vetted first.


Any journalist who makes a living attending press conferences should be tarred and feathered and run out of town.


Collective bargaining rights, Omnibus bills the list of failures and out right power grabs go on and on and on.

Don't even get me started on SOPA and the TPP as well as Bill C51.

His conservative government wanted to take Canada back to the 1950's.

~Tenth


I don't think Harper really departed in any significant way from trends already established in our time. A lot of it is lousy, I admit, but I don't lay it all at Harper's feet. Do I think he did everything right or that there is no truth to what you are saying? No.

Wait for Justin Trudeau to make it all better, but don't hold your breath waiting.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit
"Mr. Trudeau, I am certain, is just another globalist. The headline in today's Toronto Star is, It's a New Canada. I think they are right. Mr. Trudeau is going to be, I predict, the first Prime Minister of this country to be an overt globalist, who moves this country decisively out of its traditional national orbit. "

I feel your pain, but frankly, I think that if you examine global trends, you'll be faced with the inevitability of the end of the traditional nation-state. Your "Canadian" way of life, traditions, etc. will slowly be relegated to the ash bin of history and there's really nothing you or anyone else can do about it. Its happening in the UK, its happening in Europe, its happened in the US. If you're old enough, you may pass away before they outlaw the flying of the flag.

The silver lining to all of this, if you're a youngster, is that you will come to realize you owe no fealty nor loyalty to that former nation state known as Canada. You can, in good conscience live the life of a sojourner, near outlaw. You can in good conscience ignore what ever crap laws and taxes they seek to impose upon you because in reality, they lack popular authority to impose those laws or taxes. You may well end up dead at their hands, but hey....none of us are getting out of this alive anyway!



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: snypwsd
a reply to: ipsedixit

Easily persuaded? Its harpers racism,


Canadians abhor racism as any aboriginal will tell you. Not.


attack ads and low ball tactics that gave the libs a win.


In nicey nice Canada, these sorts of things simply do not fly. Harper himself was never attacked, or low balled. Heavens no!


You only have the cons and ndp to blame.


How very Canadian. "It's not my fault The devils made me vote for an adolescent fantasy."
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: ipsedixit


That's a vast oversimplification. According to Bill Blair, former Toronto police chief, Trudeau intends to decriminalize marijuana. You are not saying that a non violent heroin trafficker should be let off lightly are you?


It's not a simplification, look at the Omnibus bill he passed increasing maximum mandatory sentences to 10 years for NON violent drug offenders.

I did not say traffickers, that's entirely different.

That's insane, Heroin is nothing like MJ. I work in the Medical MJ industry and have for over a decade.

I won't get into this debate, but the fact that MJ is not legalized or at the very least decriminalized is in itself a crime.

I don't think justin will 'make it better', I just don't think he'll do as bad a job as Harper did.

~Tenth



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

We have Trudeau in now and according to Bill Blair, marijuana use is going to be decriminalized, but strictly regulated.

If you live in a society where people elect a government that believes that recreational use of restricted drugs should be harshly punished, tough luck. Move to the Netherlands or try to change the policy, but don't try to tell me that a majority government in a democratic society doesn't have the right to impose harsh penalties for what it considers dangerous violations of the law.

Just because you don't think the government has it right on drug use does not invalidate their policy, until they are voted out for a government that happens to agree with you.

I don't think the law on drug use in this country is likely to change much with Trudeau in office. I think that like a good globalist he will be taking his cues from the Americans on drug policy.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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He got my vote out of sheer spite. I hated the the conservative ads bashing him every other commercial it got sickening. The "nice hair thought" one I just hated it.



So there you go I voted from my heart not my brain. Work comment about George w Bush got me however. Kinda felt the same vibe myself but can't say way because I don't know why!

His father was one of our best Prime Ministers ever and was liked the world over. He should do well if he is a chip off the old block.



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