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Liberals Win Resounding Victory in Canadian Elections

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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr
I'm sorry, but the world is full of examples where those policies fail.

The only reason that specific policy fails, is because politicians (all stripes) always seem to forget the second half of the policy. Repay the debt during the good times.


A business friendly, low tax environment is what many other economists agree is a better solution.

It is also a policy that will fail Canada. The Federal government has to provide for all of Canada...including those that live in areas which no business will touch due to zero chance of profitability. Like running potable water to a remote community of a hundred persons...or delivering mail to Nunavut. These are things that require the government to act, regardless of the economics. The minutiae of the economic environment should, and is, handled by the provincial authority.

Not all economists agree throwing good money after bad is a good thing.

Not all economists remember to factor in what poor infrastructure costs. Or that poor infrastructure and humanitarian policies create debt just as much as poor fiscal policies. Not all debts can be measured with money, at the time the debt is created.




posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

Don't expect great things from the prodigal son, a dumbed down version of dad. Canada will continue to be a Zionist state. Nothing will change.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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Great. Now Canada can take another 100000 refugees.

It's the right thing to do

You know it will make you feel good.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Wildbob77

100,000?

Yeah, that's about normal

Maybe the Statue of Liberty should be moved to St. Johns or Vancouver.




posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: Wildbob77

100,000?

Yeah, that's about normal

Maybe the Statue of Liberty should be moved to St. Johns or Vancouver.



Thanks for posting the link. I wonder if some of the 20% foreign born are from the US. Just curious.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: ChiefD

There was a huge influx during the Viet Nam war. We took all those who refused to answer to the draft. I remember seeing lots of them in the late 60's, early 70's and, I suppose they became citizens long before Harper got his first election.

As for other Americans here, I think most are US citizens who have cottages in our 'Near North'.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: masqua

I actually remember reading somewhere that more Canadians moved to the US to enlist and go to Vietnam than Americans came to Canada to dodge the draft. No idea how true that is, mind you, but it's probably worth googling at least.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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Not gonna be future with the kind of debt the liberals are massing.it is totaly insane what has happened.Sadly it will only get worse with this next generation.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: ShadeWolf

I can believe that. I'd be willing to bet that a majority of those who enlisted were First Nations people too. I knew one once who did three tours. He was from Ontario.

here's a link on Canadians in the Viet Nam war
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: masqua

I've known several gentlemen over the years who were Canadians that went to the US to fight in the Vietnam war. And yup, 4 of the 5 were First Nations. All did multiple tours.


originally posted by: masqua


My guess is Jason Kenney, Tony Clemente or Lisa Raitt.


Don't count out Bernard Lord or Peter McKay making a comeback. McKay seen the writing on the wall and bailed early so as not to be caught up in what happened last night. He is a very savy politician. Same with Lord. He has a lot of support from many of the non western conservatives or so I've heard through the grapevine over the years. It'll be interesting to watch what ever happens.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: GAOTU789

I hear you. The man I knew well, who did 3 tours, was 'Nish from the Bruce Peninsula and kept very much to himself, living quite a distance in the bush. I met him at a sweat and shared a cooked deer heart with him. Nice guy, but you'd never want to cross him.



Speaking of First Nations:


There will be a record number of indigenous people in the House of Commons following Monday's federal election, which saw 10 indigenous MPs elected.
That's an increase of three from the 2011 election, when seven indigenous people won seats.


www.cbc.ca...

For a segment of our population that really doesn’t like Ottawa, I think that’s a hopeful sign.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: masqua
For a segment of our population that really doesn’t like Ottawa, I think that’s a hopeful sign.

I think it may be that Canada is becoming more unified, less divisive (specifically due to the youth/first time voters movements). Less want for 'nations within nations', more want for one, well run, united Canada.

We have more First Nations running, and winning. We also have separatist movements shrinking. Even though the Bloc got more seats this election, their popular vote dropped by 1.5%. Western separatists didn't even bother showing up in any serious fashion, because they knew they wouldn't sniff a seat.

Things look very bright and, as long as the Lib's don't do something insanely disruptive, I fully expect it will be a growing trend and more apparent next election.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 03:09 PM
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Here's to hoping that Canada starts taking environmental issues seriously. Forget Global warming for a minute and let's talk about pollution, Keystone pipelines, fracking, tar sands, river pollution. I say that as "liberals" or people using the "Liberal" moniker usually care more about the environment.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Here's to hoping that Canada starts taking environmental issues seriously. Forget Global warming for a minute and let's talk about pollution, Keystone pipelines, fracking, tar sands, river pollution. I say that as "liberals" or people using the "Liberal" moniker usually care more about the environment.

If you wish to have a serious debate about pollution, you best give the government a mandate to spend a gross sum of money on your behalf.

The unfortunate 'truth' is that we need oil. The safest way to process and transport that oil is through expensive extraction/processing techniques, and via properly constructed/maintained pipelines.

Something that won't happen based on a 'profit first' paradigm, but would happen under a non-partisan run Federal 'sustainability first' paradigm. Which will cost a lot of money. A heap of regulation changes. And, more than a few Federal/Provincial rights changes.

As it stands now, just by having resource control on the Provincial level, the Fed's won't be able to change much, regardless of how much they would want too.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Here's the confusing word on Trudeau and pipelines:

www.cbc.ca...

He dislikes some, but is willing to maybe back some others. The Northern Gateway is out of the question, apparently, but that leaves Keystone (among others) as a possibility.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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Congrats Canada! I had marked Canada off my places to move when the SHTF list. If Bernie doesn't become PUSA and make real change, we're hopefully applying for citizenship. My girlfriend already has her sights on a roller derby team to join and is in love with Justin.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: cayrichard
a reply to: awareness10

Don't expect great things from the prodigal son, a dumbed down version of dad. Canada will continue to be a Zionist state. Nothing will change.

Pretty subjective language there. At least he is not an evangelical whose support of Israel is based upon a need for Armageddon to initiate the rapture.

Lot of people are sharing my thoughts...with Dear Leader being handed his arse, I can go back to being proud of my country. I missed that.

For my American friends, Trudeau's victory speech is quite telling. Don't let the French scare you.

edit on 20-10-2015 by JohnnyCanuck because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: GAOTU789

Don't count out Bernard Lord or Peter McKay making a comeback. McKay seen the writing on the wall and bailed early so as not to be caught up in what happened last night. He is a very savy politician.

I'm glad to see McKay gone...he betrayed the Progressive Conservatives and as far as I'm concerned, has no honour.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Yeah we did...now maybe we'll see something positive, instead of this right wing creep that doesn't listen to the electorate.
I like how you portray being a pothead as something negative.
I bet all the potheads you know would have something to say about that...
And don't even bother with the "I don't associate with potheads" crap...I guarantee half your friends do, they just don't say anything to you about it because of your stupid assumptions.
The electorate wants it legalised and taxed.
Do it...don't stomp your feet and pretend to take the moral high ground.
And the economy?
What a joke...worst economy since ww2, and 1.3 million unemployed.
Draconian American style anti freedom legislation...
But I don't expect to sway you, not do I care.
You lost.
Here's a tissue.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Not if he legalises and taxes pot...
Deficit up in smoke, pun intended...



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