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Texas gives planned parenthood the middle finger.

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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
But abortion is such a small part of it. The real value of planned parenthood is pregnancy testing, pregnancy care, ultrasounds, STD testing and treatment, Birth control. It's where you go when you have no where else to turn and when you can't afford healthcare.



there are thousands of alternate providers in Texas, including federally qualified health centers, Medicaid-certified rural health clinics, and other health care providers across the state that participate in the Texas Women’s Health Program and Medicaid




posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: TechniXcality
Texas gives planned parenthood the middle finger.

Ah, Texas, stark contrast to Loving human evolution!


Human evolution requires that human children be born. Irony.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
So, is not funding abortions the same as making them illegal? Does Obamacare cover abortions? Abortion clinics are for profit organizations, do not kid yourselves.


Apparently only 3% of PP is performing abortions, and the claim is that they are not funded by tax dollars.

That makes me wonder what the big deal is to pro-abortion types. If PP can privately fund its abortion operations without tax dollars, and the money meant for PP is diverted 100% to other women's health care clinics, what is the big deal?

EDIT: MIssed this -


originally posted by: windword
Federal tax dollars are not used to pay for abortion, see the Hyde Amendment. Texas tax payers (Medicaid) don't pay for abortion. So you need to drop that argument!

Defunding Planned Parenthood does nothing to stop abortion because 1) abortion is already privately funded, and 2) Planned Parenthood provides birth control that prevents abortions, to low income and at risk women.


2) So do other women's clinics. They can get PP's money.

1) So if they are privately funded, what's the problem with taking away taxpayer dollars? See #2 for all the other services PP supposedly provides.
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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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So do other women's clinics. They can get PP's money.


This is an assumption, that there are lots of clinics available, that accept Medicaid or new Medicaid patients, and offer the same services that planned parenthood offers. But when lists of these supposed clinics were made public, we see this is not the case.

Texas has already defunded woman's health clinics, especially in rural areas, forcing some women to drive over a hundred mile to find a clinic. Closing more Planned Parenthood clinics won't solve the problem.




Created infographic to highlight the impact of budget cuts on women's health in Texas


alexishowland.com...


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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Teikiatsu




So do other women's clinics. They can get PP's money.


This is an assumption, that there are lots of clinics available, that accept Medicaid or new Medicaid patients, and offer the same services that planned parenthood offers. But when lists of these supposed clinics were made public, we see this is not the case.

Texas has already defunded woman's health clinics, especially in rural areas, forcing some women to drive over a hundred mile to find a clinic. Closing more Planned Parenthood clinics won't solve the problem.




Created infographic to highlight the impact of budget cuts on women's health in Texas


alexishowland.com...



Are those general health clinics, or the abortion clinics that did not meet the health standards Texas put in place? I'm thinking the latter.

I'm refering to clinics other than PP which provide OTC birth control, etc. I have a hard time believing women have to drive over 100 miles for the pill.

Random searches:

www.nytimes.com...


Elvia Yamell Hamdan, 44, and her husband left their home in Rio Bravo, Tex., at 6 a.m. and arrived at the clinic at 9. The mother of four and grandmother of three said she did not want another pregnancy. She was surprised and puzzled by what she discovered.


america.aljazeera.com...


Is 150 miles too far to drive in order to get an abortion? In some parts of Texas, that distance could get a lot longer, and it’s up to a federal appeals court to decide whether that places too much of a burden on women seeking to end their pregnancies.


aattp.org...


It is now estimated that if a woman or girl in that area were to require an abortion, they would need to make a 300 mile trip both ways by car to get to the nearest provider in Corpus Christi.


I'm not seeing much about women looking for medicine, services or procedures other than abortions. And quite frankly, I have a hard time getting upset about irresponsible women having to take 3 hours out of their life to terminate the life of a child. I find those complaints to be pretty damn petty, honestly.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
But abortion is such a small part of it. The real value of planned parenthood is pregnancy testing, pregnancy care, ultrasounds, STD testing and treatment, Birth control. It's where you go when you have no where else to turn and when you can't afford healthcare.
I love on a conservative area on Texas and people can go to the county health department. That's free, and they have plenty of birth control



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: TechniXcality
Texas gives planned parenthood the middle finger.

Ah, Texas, stark contrast to Loving human evolution!


Human evolution requires that human children be born. Irony.

Don't you think there are plenty children born?
Do you eat them?
How many would you like to adopt?
Put your life and heart and money where your mouth is.
Are you for 'capital punishment', is it just pro-'birth'?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 05:31 AM
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I have a hard time believing women have to drive over 100 miles for the pill.


You must be a man. Woman can't just buy the pill. It prescribed by a doctor. You need to make an appointment, receive a pelvic exam, probably a PAP smear, and talk about your health history.



Are those general health clinics, or the abortion clinics that did not meet the health standards Texas put in place? I'm thinking the latter.


"Created infographic to highlight the impact of budget cuts on women's health in Texas"

Those are women's health clinics that have been closed in Texas due to budget cuts.



I'm not seeing much about women looking for medicine, services or procedures other than abortions.


You're an ignorant fool.


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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu
ya, they said the same thing in Louisiana, there were plenty of alternate places to go!! Even provided the Judge in the case a list with over 2000 providers!! But the judge saw a major problem...




Last month, attorneys representing Louisiana in the lawsuit were asked by a federal judge to submit a list of other family planning service providers that would be available to patients should they lose access to Planned Parenthood. The list they provided included, to the judge’s grave concern, opthalmologists, nursing home caregivers, dentists, ENTs (ear, nose and throat specialists) and plastic surgeons.

“You’re telling me that they can provide family planning and related services?” Judge John deGravelles asked the state’s attorneys when presented with the list.

Louisiana’s legal team then followed up with an amended, and more appropriate list. However, whereas the first list — which claimed that a dentist can easily provide contraception — included over 2000 healthcare providers, the revised list found only 29 health centers that were truly able to provide family planning services.

www.yahoo.com...


and I looked for all those alternative providers in my city,....
the country health department does not provide all the services that planned parenthood provides, and when they have on their website that they will test for STD on such and such a day to the first 20 people, well I really have my doubts if they can handle much additional patients from planned parenthood! we have a couple free clinics, but you have to meet some special requirements, one is for the working poor, a stay at home wouldn't qualify, and well, believe it or not, the other is for immigrants.... maybe texas is different but I looked here, and well there isn't!!!
and obviously, Louisianna doesn't have it either!



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: Texasmikec

originally posted by: amazing
But abortion is such a small part of it. The real value of planned parenthood is pregnancy testing, pregnancy care, ultrasounds, STD testing and treatment, Birth control. It's where you go when you have no where else to turn and when you can't afford healthcare.
I love on a conservative area on Texas and people can go to the county health department. That's free, and they have plenty of birth control


Well great, then.

But, again, that's what planned parenthood does. Abortion is such a small part of it but get's all the press and I'm thinking that's a big reason that "Texas gives it the middle finger". However, Texas is also giving the middle finger to ultrasounds, preganacy tests and care and std testing and treatment. Why does texas want to do that? Why take away another healthcare provider for women? Hmmmm
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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: TruthLover557
a reply to: amicktd




I support abortions and to everyone who doesn't...oh well get over yourself.


Having a baby and raising a child is getting over yourself.


What?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: amicktd

Huh?

You'd have to have compassion to understand what I mean. I can't teach you empathy or train you in the art of caring for others.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: TruthLover557

and well, just what is placing your two children into foster care so you can lie in a hospital bed for part of that nine months because the pregnancy has caused bad enough health problems that hospitalization is necessary classify as being???

using abortion as your only means of birth control and using it to end pregnancy after pregnancy isn't that compassionate I agree, but neither is judging women for having one when you have no idea of WHY they are choosing to have it or trying to take the option away from them regardless of the situation.




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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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Texas if you get any sexier I might have to move there and spend my days drowning my sorrows in moscato and wild pig juices.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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and removing funding from planned parenthood isn't as much about abortion, since none of the funding goes into abortion.

it about removing the option to prevent pregnancy, catch cancer in it's early stages, diagnosing stds and treating them, and providing healthcare to pregnant women so they have the best chance possible to deliver a healthy child....



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: TruthLover557

People don't have babies to "get over themselves". They have babies because they want to have little projections of themselves. Just because someone is a parent doesn't mean that they "got over themselves" one little bit.





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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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We are not on the same plain here. We are not discussing the same issues. So, get excited because I'm signing off on this topic. Getting bullied by a bunch of dudes about abortion makes me sad. Bye guys.



posted on Oct, 22 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: TruthLover557
a reply to: amicktd

Huh?

You'd have to have compassion to understand what I mean. I can't teach you empathy or train you in the art of caring for others.


So because I have a different opinion on the topic and not completely closed minded regarding the topic, I have no compassion? Nice projection and deflection from the topic, but women fought for their rights to abortions decades ago. What did you do? Sit around and complain about it on the internet?



posted on Oct, 22 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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Texas raids Planned Parenthood clinics..




AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - Texas officials raided several Planned Parenthood facilities on Thursday, the group said, in a move that comes days after the state's Republicans leaders barred the women's health group from receiving state Medicaid money.

The raids were carried out at Planned Parenthood health centers in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio by representatives from the Texas Office of the Inspector General.

news.yahoo.com...


so nice of them!!!



posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 07:49 AM
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and now, they seem to be backtracking???




The Texas official in charge of the Medicaid inquiry of Planned Parenthood says that the organization has not been terminated from that federal health care program and that it would take at least a month to determine whether it should be.

In an interview Saturday with The Texas Tribune, Stuart Bowen Jr., head of the Office of Inspector General at the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, said the “notice of termination” sent to Planned Parenthood last week is the start of a civil enforcement process — and not a final determination of the organization’s status as a Medicaid provider in Texas.

“We did not terminate them,” he said. “We began a process ... inclusive of the development of evidence.”

www.wfaa.com...


wonder just what is up with that one??



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