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Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin Delivers Remarks on Domestic Terrorism.

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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:33 PM
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In a recent event co-sponsored by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the George Washington University Center for Cyber and Homeland Security’s Program on Extremism, Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin made statements that should concern all Americans. At least all Americans who are either conservative, libertarian, constitutionalists, or who happen to disagree with any of the policies implemented by the Obama administration, or anyone who spouses any conspiracy theory concerning the government.


Washington, DC
United States

Wednesday, October 14, 2015

Remarks as prepared for delivery

Thank you, Lorenzo [Vidino], for that kind introduction.

It is an honor to be at this event, co-hosted by the George Washington University’s new Program on Extremism and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

It is an honor to be at this event, co-hosted by the George Washington University’s new Program on Extremism and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The partnership between SPLC and GW serves as a reminder that violent extremism is neither a new phenomenon, nor one that is limited to any single population, region or ideology.

Since its creation in 1971, SPLC has been an important voice on the wide range of extremist groups throughout this country. And over the past four decades, the existence of hate, violence and extremism has remained unfortunately all too constant. Earlier this year, we honored and remembered the victims of the horrific Oklahoma City bombing on the 20th anniversary of that devastating attack. Less than two months after the anniversary, we again saw unimaginable violence motivated by hate. A young man killed nine African-American men and women attending a bible class in Charleston, South Carolina. A senseless, racist act. The list goes on, past and present.

But as we gather today, new and disturbing trends loom over the horizon – trends we must understand to defeat.

New initiatives, like GW’s program, which focus on empirical research and analysis, are critical to policymakers and the interested public alike.
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But if we look at some of the claims that the Southern Poverty Law Center has made in the past, it is obvious that their main focus and who they label as "right wing extremists" is based on ideology. Or to be more precise, ideology that differs from the status quo of the Obama administration and groups like the SPLC.

Let's look at some of the people, and groups that the SPLC has labeled as "extremists".


Ron Paul’s New Organization Reportedly Stacked with Extremists

by Ryan Lenz

April 26, 2013

Ron Paul, the libertarian former Texas congressman whose hard-line views are widely admired on the radical right but who claims to reject racism, [bhas started a new organization stacked with a hodgepodge of far-right extremists.

As The Daily Beast reported yesterday, the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity is ostensibly designed to promote a discourse about U.S. foreign policy. But its advisory board is stacked with what writer James Kirchik characterized as “a bevy of conspiracy theorists, cranks, and apologists for some of the worst regimes on the planet.

And just who are the far-right luminaries helping guide Pauls new endeavor?

One is Lew Rockwell, Paul’s former congressional chief of staff who now heads the Ludwig von Mises Institute, an Auburn, Ala., think tank with deep ties to the neo-Confederate movement. Theres Judge Andrew Napolitano of Fox News and journalist Eric Margolis, both 9/11trutherswho suspect that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks may have been orchestrated by the government.

And alongside them sits Butler Shaffer, a Southwestern Law School professor who similarly once asked:In light of the lies, forgeries, cover-ups, and other deceptions leading to awar in Iraq, how can any intellectually honest person categorically deny the possibility of the involvement of American political interest in 9/11?
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Notice how from the beginning the SPLC claims people like Ron Paul, and others who have similar views to Paul are seen as "right wing extremists" by the SPLC, and obviously by the Obama administration.

Let's look at another example. The SPLC labels Lew Rockwel as another "right wing extremist". But who is Lew Rockwell?


Lew Rockwell

Llewellyn Harrison "Lew" Rockwell, Jr. (born July 1, 1944) is an American libertarian author and editor, self-professed anarcho-capitalist,[1] a promoter of the Austrian School of economics, and founder and chairman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
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It is more and more obvious that not only groups like the SPLC, but including the Obama administration label Americans as extremists, simply on ideology, and not for a preponderance of evidence on violence of individuals.

As a matter of fact, Heidi Beirich, the SPLC's intelligence project director, has made remarks in the past that the SPLC looks at "ideology and not on whether or not those groups are violent."


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CNSNews.com asked Beirich about their designation of the Family Research Council as a hate group.

I think theres a common misunderstanding about the way you get on our Hate List. We post groups on the basis of ideology, not whether theyre violent or not,” she replied.
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So whether you are a conservative, a libertarian, a constitutionalist, or simply a conspiracy theorist, you and I are labeled as "right wing extremists" by the SPLC and the Obama administration.

This should be very concerning for all Americans because we are being targeted, and viewed as "extremists" for simply having a different view than the status quo of the Obama administration and groups like the SPLC.




posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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John CArlin has also stated recently that the Obama administration is seeking to fill a new Czar position that deals with "domestic extremism/terrorism".


DOJ Creates New Domestic Terror Position

by Pete Williams

The Justice Department has created a new position to put more emphasis on countering domestic terrorism.

The domestic terrorism counsel will assist federal prosecutors nationwide who are working on domestic terrorism cases, according to John Carlin, in charge of DOJ's national security division. He says the counsel will "help shape our strategy and analyze legal gaps or enhancements required to ensure we can combat these threats."

In the past few years, more people in the U.S. have died in attacks committed by domestic extremists than in attacks associated with international terrorist groups, according to a study cited by Carlin, speaking Wednesday to a seminar on terrorism at George Washington University.
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I do not condone violence against any individual on the basis of race, sex, sexual orientation, gender, or political or religious affiliation. But I also do not condone this stance from the Obama administration and groups like the SPLC, or West Point, among others that are labeling Americans as "extremists" and "possible terrorists" based on political or other ideological views.

This trend by the government to label Americans as "extremists" or "possible terrorists" simply based on ideology should concern all Americans.


edit on 16-10-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.

edit on 16-10-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

There'd already be purges to get rid of anyone that doesn't conform if the 2nd Amendment didn't exist.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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Here are some other samples of how the government has been labeling Americans as "extremists" or "possible terrorists" simply based on ideology.


West Point center cites dangers of ‘far right’ in U.S.

By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Thursday, January 17, 2013

A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.”

The report issued this week by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., is titled “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.”

The center — part of the institution where men and women are molded into Army officers — posted the report Tuesday. It lumps limited government activists with three movements it identifies asa racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement."
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The report also draws a link between the mainstream conservative movement and the violentfar right,” and describes liberals asfuture orientedand conservatives as living in the past.

While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and in general, are interested in preserving the status quo.” the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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Federal Lawsuit Filed Against Janet Napolitano Over Homeland Security’s Rightwing Extremism Policy

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The Report specifically mentions the following political beliefs that law enforcement should use to determine whether someone is arightwing extremist”:

· Opposes restrictions on firearms

· Opposes lax immigration

· Opposes the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship and the expansion of social programs

· Opposes continuation of free trade agreements

· Opposes same-sex marriage

· Has paranoia of foreign regimes

· Fear of Communist regimes

· Opposes one world government

· Bemoans the decline of U.S. stature in the world.

· Upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India

· . . . and the list goes on

The Law Center is asking the court to declare that the DHS policy violates the First and Fifth Amendments, to permanently enjoin the Policy and its application to the plaintiffs’ speech and other activities, and to award the plaintiffs their reasonable attorney’s fees and costs for having to bring the lawsuit.

www.thomasmore.org...



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 09:29 PM
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"upset with loss of US manufacturing jobs to China and India"...... *facepalm* oh good lord... a reply to: ElectricUniverse



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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Opposing Obama is a sign you ar ea terrorist huh? wow... just wow.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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And there are people treating this as if it was something normal. Could you imagine the outrage if the same thing was done to liberals and left wingers in general?

If the government, and government institutions came out to say that being a progressive, or leaning to the left in politics is a threat to the nation, and these people could be possible extremists, and possible terrorists while being labeled so even when they were not violent. What do you think people in the left would do?

Heck, quite a few people who lean to the left believe in one or another "conspiracy theory" involving 9/11 etc.
edit on 17-10-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 01:24 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
And there are people treating this as if it was something normal. Could you imagine the outrage if the same thing was done to liberals and left wingers in general?

If the government, and government institutions came out to say that being a progressive, or leaning to the left in politics is a threat to the nation, and these people could be possible extremists, and possible terrorists while being labeled so even when they were not violent. What do you think people in the left would do?


You say that as if you've never heard the term 'eco-terrorism.'

So what happened to the eco-terrorists? They got locked up. Between a majority of them being few in number and the passage of the PATRIOT Act, eco-terrorism is barely even a blip on the radar. So they locked up all the left-wing terrorists, now we have nothing but right-wing terrorists and here you come...whining about persecution. Where were you for the past 30 years?



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: links234

wow, so they go after Americans for simply being conservatives, constitutionalists, pro- second amendment, or for opposing any of Obama's policies, which includes believing in conspiracies in which the government is involved and you claim it is the same as "incarcerating eco-terrorists"?... You must be insane...

There is a big difference between labeling people terrorists for building bombs, destroying buildings, and killing people, and labeling people as "possible terrorists and extremists" for having an ideology which is not violent, but simply because it goes against the status quo of the left wing Obama government...



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 06:33 PM
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This is the most passive aggressive our government has ever been, and that's dangerous because it means they give all the signals of preparing to move against a good portion of the American public for the simple and dangerous crime of disagreement. They've been arming with weapons and ammo and armed personnel tank vehicles in the local law enforcement agencies. They've been putting the legal measure in place to crack down. Everything signals that they're threatening to move, and they do stuff like this that says they consider us a threat which is basically a threat in not so many works.

And we've done ... what? Buy weapons and ammo in response? Make angry noises? Show up and protest a government land grab once?

Where is the justification for all the moves which is where I go back to passive aggressive. They're ready, so what are they waiting for? Are they trying to push a response?



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
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Where is the justification for all the moves which is where I go back to passive aggressive. They're ready, so what are they waiting for? Are they trying to push a response?


That is my guess. Between the release of 167,000 criminal illegal aliens in the U.S., many of whom are committing crimes, including murder with firearms. The continued attempts by this administration to label Americans who disagree with them as "possible terrorists" and "extremists". Plus the fact that this administration continues to try to find ways to restrict the second amendment right meanwhile arming our LEAs with military equipment. It does seem that they do want something to happen so they can start their even more draconian laws.



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: yuppa

And there are people treating this as if it was something normal. Could you imagine the outrage if the same thing was done to liberals and left wingers in general?

If the government, and government institutions came out to say that being a progressive, or leaning to the left in politics is a threat to the nation, and these people could be possible extremists, and possible terrorists while being labeled so even when they were not violent. What do you think people in the left would do?

Heck, quite a few people who lean to the left believe in one or another "conspiracy theory" involving 9/11 etc.


I sense Conservative trials in the future. Are you or are you not a conservative? Answer the QUestion you right wing scumbag! That sort of witch trial mentality They are using is very dangerous.



posted on Oct, 18 2015 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

"Opposes one world government "

The need to be a supporter of the ultimate tyranny that Americans were supposed to protect and stop tyranny, within their own government, let alone the one world government that's approaching.

I`m an extremist then.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: gps777

A lot of us are. Even among those people who still don't want to believe what is going on, or are simply dismissing it. Heck, most people who are here must be a conspiracy theorist in one or another theory. Otherwise they must be real shills working for the government. For what other reason would a non-conspiracy theorist be a member of this site?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 01:28 AM
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Government is used as a stick by the few to control the many. That is what government is by the nature of its construction.

Now for NGOs: NGOs like the Southern Poverty Law Center [SPLC] are another set of useful tools for greater state control all together. The SPLC has recently been brought into the fold of big government assisting private agencies. The purpose of the organization is to further the aggrandizement of Mark Potac. It has been designed by him to magnify his importance in the decision making apparatus of government to serve his egotistical opinion that his world view is somehow important to anyone other than Mark Potac. He has aligned his organization with the far left elements in the state control apparatus of late. I see no other definable purpose for this ego construction.


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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 01:38 AM
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Have any of you met militant Sovereign Citizens before?

I have.

They're pretty scary. And what I've found even more scary is how fast someone can go from being a "constitutionalist" to a rabid anti-government, "anti-everything that isn't what I believe" radical. All it takes is one charismatic ring leader, traveling around and renting out conference rooms at cheap motels giving seminars.

"Tickets are one ounce of silver, the only real money!"

Then, these guys use typical cult-leader tactics to draw out, bolster, and fortify latent feelings of anger, fear and hate. Attendees leave with visions of grandeur of a world in which they are king above everyone else, and everyone they meet is stupid, dumb, asleep, and out to take everything they have...which necessitates the need to arm themselves to the teeth and seek out confrontations with authority figures.
edit on 4-12-2015 by MystikMushroom because: (no reason given)



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