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Heck some religions (like Christianity) have multiple interpretations of that Creationist account too. How exactly would a class even address all of those accounts?
so you can back that up with sources?
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: deadlyhope
The scientific theory does not say that everything came from nothing. The only people i hear say that is creationists who don't like science. Perhaps you should learn the actual scientific theory before you go bashing it?
YES IT DOES.
You can say that it does not all you want, but the entire basis of it DOES.
bound? Like forced?
Why are you so bound by caring what the scientific theory is anyways ??
i care about the truth. That led me to a life of education and research. I've done the math. I understand the theories. That is what leads me to believe these theories are the best we have at the time.
What RULE and LAW says that anyone needs to accept this belief, this system ??
the language you are using is odd. I do not NEED to believe. That is what religion does. It forces you to believe something with no evidence, under penalty of eternal punishment. If i get some math wrong, i just fix it. No punishment.
And why do you need to believe that it is true ???
because i understand the math. Therefor, no faith is required. I think that is where you are confused. You don't understand the meaning of the word theory. And you obviously don't understand what the theories even say. If you can show me where the big bang theory says everything came from nothing, i'll leave this site forever.
WHY DO YOU NOT SEE IT AS JUST ANOTHER RELIGION, THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.
The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed.
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.
I'm in the UK, schooled through the 70's and 80's, we would be taught religious stories in one lesson, and go to a science class and discuss the 'big bang' as a known fact.
The bonus here is I was frustrated and confused at the time, I'd laugh how we were taught two opposing lessons
You see, it's not about religion.
For the record - I'm talking about how the world came about, not about mutations of species and evolution over time - I realize some aspects are indeed facts, and believe schools should teach them as such.
originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: Titen-Sxull
Try explaining why science isn't a belief.
How they used to explain things are now debunked, aka lies, aka they were always beliefs, falsehoods, magic, mysticism... All touted as facts. The world was flat, the earth was the center of the universe.. Because we've "figured out" simple things such as these, we somehow think we have the intellect to figure out the creation of the universe.. That's bull. Your science is even more mystical and deluded than any religion I know. At least religion says "God created it, I don't know how" rather than having the delusional narcissism to think one is all knowing and wise and posit it as facts and jam that crap right into the minds of kids..
Try explaining why science isn't a belief.
rather than having the delusional narcissism to think one is all knowing and wise and posit it as facts and jam that crap right into the minds of kids..
At least religion says "God created it, I don't know how"