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EXCLUSIVE: First Translation of Khameini’s New Book on the Destruction of America, of Israel

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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:23 AM
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First Translation of Ayatollah Khameini’s New Book concerning the Destruction of America, and the Destruction of Israel Link: irantruth.org...



Ayatollah Khameini: ‘Palestine’ (2015)


[Introduction by Dr. Ali Akbar Velayati

"The role of Shia Ulama [Islamic leaders] in the complicated issue of Palestine has steadily moved toward reaching its goal. The issue of Palestine has had many extensive, large-scale reflections all around the world. The way Shia Ulamas, [scholars] including Motaharri, dealt with the issue of Palestine was to rely on Allah internally and on Muslims externally, which enabled them to fight against the oppressors with all their might. Having this in mind, it is worth it to know how this class of Muslim scholars approached the issue of Palestine and Zionism.
Mohammd Hasan Ibn Mohammad Ibrahim Gilani, one of these scholars, who in his own time had experienced an issue of occupation, as the Israeli-Palestine issue, emphasizes Jihad as a mandatory Islamic duty on Muslims’ shoulders. He states, “If the people of darkness and blasphemy attack Muslims’ lands and try to establish a non-Islamic political system in that land, jihad becomes a compulsory religious duty for all Muslims who are able to use a weapon. Sheikh Mohammad Reza Hamedani, who lived in 19th century, in his book, Trqib Ul Musliemin Ela Difa Ul Moshrekin [Encouraging Muslims to resist non-Muslims] expressly writes, “ The purpose of jihad is to preserve the seed of Islam and granting Islam prosperity and superiority. Until reaching that goal, the duty of jihad is compulsory.”]


Link: irantruth.org...

Apparently this is how Ayatollah Khomeini's new book Palestine begins..I personally have not read the book yet, but I imagine a translation to English from Farsi does indeed exist, or is in production. Many of you seem to question what exactly a muslim is, and what his responsibilities are to his people and his faith; perhaps by taking a look at this interesting piece of literature, we will all be able to better understand the Islamic faith, and their faithfuls, the muslims.

Link: irantruth.org...




Note, no plagiarism..the book is directly quoted in the news article;
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:58 AM
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What I don't get is when us Muslims on ATS say this is wrong and does not represent Islam truly we're told we are wrong...

But when an old lunatic like the Ayatollah says something people take his word for it.



Take out the appeal to authority fallacy (trusting an Ayatollah, cleric, sheik, imam over Muslims without an agenda) and really you're just confirming your bias.


Not you Tony... Just in general.


Thanks for sharing.

This guy needs to die of old age soon.
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

And the truth comes out!

This wont stop the apologists on ATS, defending Iran.

They will simply tell you that the ayatollah (like all other) doesnt represent islam, further aiding their agenda through ignorance.

All too convenient if you ask me!



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: tony9802

And the truth comes out!

This wont stop the apologists on ATS, defending Iran.

They will simply tell you that the ayatollah (like all other) doesnt represent islam, further aiding their agenda through ignorance.

All too convenient if you ask me!


Does George Bush's (masters') goals of intervening in Iraq because god told him so represent all Americans? According to your logic this is a definite yes.

You support George Bush because god told him so.

Feeling embarrassed yet?



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
What I don't get is when us Muslims on ATS say this is wrong and does not represent Islam truly we're told we are wrong...

But when an old lunatic like the Ayatollah says something people take his word for it.



Take out the appeal to authority fallacy (trusting an Ayatollah, cleric, sheik, imam over Muslims without an agenda) and really you're just confirming your bias.


Not you Tony... Just in general.


Thanks for sharing.

This guy needs to die of old age soon.


Is this like saying the pope dont represent the catholic church dont listen to him?



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Brotherman

Not really... it's more like saying the Pope doesn't represent every sect of Christianity.


The Ayatollah is strictly a Shi'ite...

He has no bearing on Sufis, Salafis, Sunnis, Wahhabis or anyone, other than a certain section of Shia Islam...


Personally, as a Quranist, I answer to no cleric, sheik or imam.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


Ok got ya, as an outsider looking in, it appeared differently so thank you for clarifying.
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: Brotherman

No problem, Brotherman.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: real_one

Does George Bush's (masters') goals of intervening in Iraq because god told him so represent all Americans? According to your logic this is a definite yes.

You support George Bush because god told him so.

Feeling embarrassed yet?


LOL

You almost made me spit out my pretzel. George did indeed say God told him to do it.
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:46 PM
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What's the difference between a jyhadde (intention misspell) and a "regime change" to the whole ME?



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: trifecta

Just who is orchestrating it and how it is framed intellectually by those supporting it.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: tony9802

I love how these uneducated murders invoke Islam into a situation that was occurring long before Islam was established as a religion. Nothing like hijacking a religion in order to justify murder.

As far as the book goes it was much better in the original Nazi German form.
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: tony9802

Did you notice how he never states that he opposes Judaism but Zionism ?



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: real_one

You should feel embarrassed because I didnt mention George Bush.. learn to read...



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: tony9802

Did you notice how he never states that he opposes Judaism but Zionism ?


Have you also noticed that when referring to Israels future it doesn't exist? The false picture he paints about Zionism and Judaism are one in the same - there is no place for them in the middle east.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Have you noticed that Iran (or Persia) had existed there peacefully for hundreds of years? WE have no place in the middle east



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
What I don't get is when us Muslims on ATS say this is wrong and does not represent Islam truly we're told we are wrong...

But when an old lunatic like the Ayatollah says something people take his word for it.

Take out the appeal to authority fallacy (trusting an Ayatollah, cleric, sheik, imam over Muslims without an agenda) and really you're just confirming your bias.


Exactly. And not only that, who did this translation & how credible are they? It would be easy for someone to use a biased interpretation in a translation specifically to fear monger. Kind of like those false Qur'anic quotes Islamaphobes pull out where they paraphrase a paragraph-long passage into a short phrase, then take it out of context to make it sound evil.

Also, I don't understand why they take Khameini seriously with things like this, then dismiss him when he forbade Iran from having nukes. If he's credible now, he's credible then. But if he couldn't be believed then, why do they believe him now?



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 01:35 AM
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originally posted by: mymymy
a reply to: Xcathdra

Have you noticed that Iran (or Persia) had existed there peacefully for hundreds of years? WE have no place in the middle east


Uhm not really... The middle East has been having issues long before the United states was formed, including Persia (Iran). Trying to lay the entire blame on the US is without merit. Prior to the current government of Iran they weren't threatening to wipe Israel off the map every other day, as they are doing today.



posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Do either you or Charliespeirs have a PhD, Doctorate in Isamic Theology? I believe an Ayatollah does, and so I will assume that his life long studies of Islamic texts are considerably true and appropriate interpretation of Quranic writings.. This isn't simply a silly imam/pastor making these types of statements.. It is a professional, with much extensive diploma and study making these statements. It is their lifelong vocation and profession to study and understand Islamic text and scripture..


The statements these leaders make then, are important and influential, and based in historical fact; Why would muslims like yourselves be disappointed at hearing what the doctors of this faith explain and teach about those sacred texts?

Maybe neither you nor Charliespeirs are too sure about really adhering to this Eastern faith, if those teachings or statements are a few things that either of you would actually disagree with.

I suppose I should ask you, what you each personally believe the Quran teaches, particularly when the Islamic faith is under oppression and duress by powers such as Zionism, Western Capitalism, and Colonialism. I believe it teaches that Allah would expect it's adherents to attempt to reobtain Al Quds or rather Jerusalem,.. better known as the land of Palestine that is, in Arabic/Farsi.

Do you guys maybe subscribe to Nation of Islam and it's teachings? How might those differ from Persian Islamic teachings? Probably greatly,
but to be honest with you, neither of you strike me as being followers of Nation of Islam..



That the translation that we are reading, could be a misguided one, is a possibility, an unlikely possibility. Be my guest and find a another suitable translation from Farsi to English..I can try looking for one as well...
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posted on Oct, 17 2015 @ 08:13 AM
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Ayatollah en.wikipedia.org...


Ayatollah (UK /aɪəˈtɒlə/ or US /aɪəˈtoʊlə/; Persian: آيت‌الله‎‎ ayatollah from Arabic: آية الله‎, āyatu allah "Sign of Allah") is a high-ranking title given to Usuli Twelver Shī‘ah clerics. Those who carry the title are experts in Islamic studies such as jurisprudence, ethics, and philosophy and usually teach in Islamic seminaries. The next lower clerical rank is Hojatoleslam wal-muslemin.

History[edit]

The name "ayatollah" originates from a passage in the Quran which the Shi'a, unlike the Sunni, interpret to mean human beings can be regarded as 'signs' or 'evidence' of God. Passage 51:20–21 of the Quran states:

On the earth are signs (Ayat) for those of assured Faith,
As also in your own selves: Will ye not then see?

Grand Ayatollah Khomeini in Qom, 1964


Rank[edit]

The title is currently granted to top Shia mujtahid, after completing sat'h and kharij studies in the hawza. By then the mujtahid would be able to issue his own edicts from the sources of Islamic religious laws: the Qur'an, the Sunnah, ijmāʻ, and 'aql ("intellect", rather than the Sunnī principle of qiyas). Most of the time this is attested by an issued certificate from his teachers. The ayatollah can then teach in hawzas (shia seminaries) according to his speciality, can act as a reference for their religious questions, and act as a judge.


Female Ayatollahs[edit]

There are a few women who are equal in ranking to the ayatollahs, and are known as Lady Mujtahideh. The most outstanding in recent history was Nosrat Amin, also known as Banu Isfahani.[1] Current examples of the Lady Mujtahidehs are Zohreh Sefati and Lady Ayatollah Aatieh Hassani also known as Imam'ah Al-Hassani daughter of Grand Ayatollah Gholamreza Hassani.

Historically, there have been several Mujtahidehs in Shi'ism, most famously the women in the family of Allama Hilli, as well as the Baraghani family of 19th century Qazvin.

The top maraji of Najaf Hawzah: (from left to right) Mohammad Ishaq al-Fayyad, Ali al-Sistani, Mohammad Saeed Al-Hakim and Bashir al-Najafi.
Grand Ayatollah[edit]

Main article: Marja'

Only a few of the most important ayatollahs are accorded the rank of Grand Ayatollah (Ayatollah Uzma, "Great Sign of God"). This usually happens when the followers of one of the ayatollahs refer to him in many situations and ask him to publish his Juristic book in which he answers the vast majority of daily Muslim affairs. The book is called Resalah, which is usually a reinvention of the book Al-Urwatu l-Wuthqah, according to their knowledge of the most authentic Islamic sources and their application to current life.

There are 64 living Maraji worldwide as of 2014, mainly based in Najaf and Qom. The most prominent of these include Ali al-Sistani, Muhammad al-Fayadh, Muhammad Saeed al-Hakim, and Bashir al-Najafi in Najaf; and Hossein Vahid Khorasani, Mousa Shubairi Zanjani, Sayyid Sadeq Rohani, Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani, Abdul-Karim Mousavi Ardebili, Naser Makarem Shirazi and Yousef Saanei in Qom.


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